Obama tells Medvedev he'll have 'more flexibility' after election

**Gerald285** · 03-26-12, 08:47 AM

President offering to sell out America??? You decide.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...uring-missile/

**YARDofSTUF** · 03-26-12, 10:34 AM

Nah, we were already sold to China.

***Roody*** · 03-26-12, 12:14 PM

How exactly would that be selling out America?

**Humboldt** · 03-26-12, 04:10 PM

First, this is from Fox *not* news.

Second, this is from Gerald the jesus troll.

Both make me discount the thread as rational.

**mnosteele52** · 03-26-12, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by Humboldt

First, this is from Fox *not* news.

Come on now, don't hate on Fox, they are the only one's who don't kiss Obama's a@#. But he did say it, it's recorded.

What worries me that if he gets re-elected he will really ruin this country, he knows he will have nothing to lose and will push HIS agenda harder than ever before. Be ready for the United Socialist States of America. He has already made Americans more dependent on the government than ever before and put us further in debt than any other President, he will truly ruin what we know as the United States.

**Humboldt** · 03-26-12, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by mnosteele52

Come on now, don't hate on Fox, they are the only one's who kiss Obama's a@#. But he did say it, it's recorded.

What worries me that if he gets re-elected he will really ruin this country, he knows he will have nothing to lose and will push HIS agenda harder than ever before. Be ready for the United Socialist States of America. He has already made Americans more dependent on the government than ever before and put us further in debt than any other President, he will truly ruin what we know as the United States.

Hey

Fox is a joke, as is Gerald. Politics aside.

**Humboldt** · 03-26-12, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Frances69

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**** off

***Roody*** · 03-27-12, 07:25 AM

Accusations of socialism has to be the most misused phrasing of Obama's presidency. I'm not sure most people even know what it means.

**blebs** · 03-27-12, 07:32 AM

Mark my word today. Obama is going to get re elected. There is no question or doubt about it. It wouldn't matter if every voter voted NO, he's still going to get re elected and yes, he is selling this country out and yes, he is a socialist.

***Roody*** · 03-27-12, 09:19 AM

He will get re-elected because the Republicans have offered up terrible choices, but I am curious on what makes mnosteele and blebs think he is a socialist? What has he done that you guys feel falls under the definition of socialism.

**YARDofSTUF** · 03-27-12, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Roody

Accusations of socialism has to be the most misused phrasing of Obama's presidency. I'm not sure most people even know what it means.

It means he uses facebook and google+ a lot right!?

***Roody*** · 03-27-12, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF

It means he uses facebook and google+ a lot right!?

See you get it.

**mnosteele52** · 03-27-12, 10:38 AM

Socialism is when the government controls everything and divides it among the people. Let's see, Obama now has government ownership in the banking industry, car manufacturing industry, energy industry and his biggest - control of healthcare. Obama and the rest of the government needs to keep out of the private sector and let capitalism take it's course, that is how the economy recovers, not by government control and government spending. Stop bailing out Wall Street, the banks, the auto industry and everyone else. Let them fail and new companies will be formed to regenerate the economy. NOTHING the government runs is financially successful.

Obama has associated himself with nothing but FAR left radicals his entire life and when questioned about it plays it off as "they were just acquaintances, not true friends", BS, why do people ignore this. I know personally that the people I associate with are like minded. People voted this guy into office and ignore the facts. Look at the whole birth certificate scandal, just show the original birth certificate and be done with it. Why in the world would he have the Governor of Hawaii put it under lock and key and why would so much money be spent to hide it if there is nothing to hide? His SSN is one from Connecticut yet he was born in Hawaii? There are just too many things about him that do not add up, too many lies yet people ignore all of them. As I have always said..... Manchurian Candidate.

***Roody*** · 03-27-12, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by mnosteele52

Socialism is when the government controls everything and divides it among the people. Let's see, Obama now has government ownership in the banking industry, car manufacturing industry, energy industry and his biggest - control of healthcare. Obama and the rest of the government needs to keep out of the private sector and let capitalism take it's course, that is how the economy recovers, not by government control and government spending. Stop bailing out Wall Street, the banks, the auto industry and everyone else. Let them fail and new companies will be formed to regenerate the economy. NOTHING the government runs is financially successful.

Obama has associated himself with nothing but FAR left radicals his entire life and when questioned about it plays it off as "they were just acquaintances, not true friends", BS, why do people ignore this. I know personally that the people I associate with are like minded. People voted this guy into office and ignore the facts. Look at the whole birth certificate scandal, just show the original birth certificate and be done with it. Why in the world would he have the Governor of Hawaii put it under lock and key and why would so much money be spent to hide it if there is nothing to hide? His SSN is one from Connecticut yet he was born in Hawaii? There are just too many things about him that do not add up, too many lies yet people ignore all of them. As I have always said..... Manchurian Candidate.

So then you believe Bush was a socialist also? After all some of those bailouts started with him. As for the birther stuff I'm not going to get into that. It's been proven over and over that he was born in the U.S. You will have to forgive me when I say I'm not going to feed any more conspiracy theories on that topic.

**YARDofSTUF** · 03-27-12, 11:02 AM

And yet the socialist party doesnt like Obama and doesn't think hes a socialist, hmmmm.

**mnosteele52** · 03-27-12, 11:06 AM

Seriously Roody, comparing Bush??? Your just like the media, support Obama no matter what he does and says. Ok, explain his associations with Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Al-Mansour, George Soros, Tony Rezko, Van Jones, Derrick Bell and the list goes on and on. Seriously explain his relationships with these people, why do you and others ignore these things? It's not a conspiracy theory when he has definitive ties with all of these people, real relationships.

**YARDofSTUF** · 03-27-12, 11:35 AM

Oh so now hes a terrorist, damn I was still on te socialist page.

***Roody*** · 03-27-12, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by mnosteele52

Seriously Roody, comparing Bush???

You didn't answer the question. You used the auto and banking industry as reasons why Obama is a socialist in your opinion yet both of those started with Bush. In fact Bush spent part of his memoir explaining his reasoning. Now with that in mind is Bush a socialist also? If so then why target just Obama? If not then why is Obama a socialist and not Bush?

Your just like the media, support Obama no matter what he does and says.

I do NOT agree with all of Obama's policies. Like anyone who takes politics seriously I do a ton of research and then make the best choice for my family and I. I have never found a perfect politician and I never will.

Ok, explain his associations with Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Al-Mansour, George Soros, Tony Rezko, Van Jones, Derrick Bell and the list goes on and on. Seriously explain his relationships with these people, why do you and others ignore these things? It's not a conspiracy theory when he has definitive ties with all of these people, real relationships.

Guilt by association is an awful game to play and opens one up to hypocritical situations. Are you sure you want to go that route? I can point to Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr and down the road as examples of Presidents who were associated with questionable people. Do you have an issue with them also? I don't condone people doing bad things, but guilt by association is a flimsy argument at best.