Re: Fanboi's lament - falling out of love with the iPad

[Your Name]

In article <q6n5061n7r1r9nfg5japerk1uc1kmhjifb@4ax.com>, John Navas
<jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 31 May 2010 09:04:34 +1200, "Your Name" <your.name@isp.com>
> wrote in <htukm9$2e9$2@lust.ihug.co.nz>:
>
> >
> >"John Navas" <jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> >news:a315065qebubltq5lefijul2os2dpksrm6@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> Pretty much my thinking as well.
> >> I need a decent keyboard for email, documents, presentations,
> >> annotations, etc.
> >
> >You can get a real keyboard for the iPad - both from Apple and evidently
> >most USB keyboards via the camera adapter ... BUT the iPad is not a
> >computer, never was, never will be.
>
> Carrying around a USB keyboard would seem to defeat the entire purpose
> of the device.

You can get fold-up and roll-up keyboards, as well as mini-keyboards,
etc., even a laser projected keyboard (although that wouldn't really be
any better than the on-screen keyboard).



> >> Why would anyone rationally buy an iPad when (say) the Acer
> >> Aspire One can be had for only $200 (Newegg Memorial Day sale)?
> >
> >You'd buy the iPad just to escape Windoze hell. :-)
>
> What hell? Works for me.

Viruses, malware, and buggy, bloated and over-priced software, ...

[nospam]

In article
<your.name-3105101309410001@203-109-168-210.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz>, Your
Name <your.name@isp.com> wrote:

> > >You can get a real keyboard for the iPad - both from Apple and evidently
> > >most USB keyboards via the camera adapter ... BUT the iPad is not a
> > >computer, never was, never will be.
> >
> > Carrying around a USB keyboard would seem to defeat the entire purpose
> > of the device.
>
> You can get fold-up and roll-up keyboards, as well as mini-keyboards,
> etc., even a laser projected keyboard (although that wouldn't really be
> any better than the on-screen keyboard).

people did that with palm, and without the bitching.

> > >> Why would anyone rationally buy an iPad when (say) the Acer
> > >> Aspire One can be had for only $200 (Newegg Memorial Day sale)?
> > >
> > >You'd buy the iPad just to escape Windoze hell. :-)
> >
> > What hell? Works for me.
>
> Viruses, malware, and buggy, bloated and over-priced software, ...

no kidding. most iphone/ipad software is under $5.

[nospam]

In article <qk5606pj9p1mdonvbj3tf685vbjrbk4jep@4ax.com>, John Navas
<jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >You can get fold-up and roll-up keyboards, as well as mini-keyboards,
> >etc., even a laser projected keyboard (although that wouldn't really be
> >any better than the on-screen keyboard).
>
> Those alternatives are too crappy for me to take seriously.
> Nothing less than a real keyboard will do.

real keyboards work, but the point is that an external keyboard is not
needed for what it's designed to do.

> >> >> Why would anyone rationally buy an iPad when (say) the Acer
> >> >> Aspire One can be had for only $200 (Newegg Memorial Day sale)?
> >> >
> >> >You'd buy the iPad just to escape Windoze hell. :-)
> >>
> >> What hell? Works for me.
> >
> >Viruses, malware, and buggy, bloated and over-priced software, ...
>
> No viruses or malware here, operation solid and stable, excellent
> application software.

you're the exception. there's plenty of malware out there, including
some on android.

[Larry]

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:300520101900462534%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> you're the exception. there's plenty of malware out there, including
> some on android.
>
>

Billions of Windows users, worldwide, protected with some really nice
products like Symantec's Norton series, are totally unaffected by anything
they click. NIS 2010 won't even let me click on malware websites off
Google without just raisin' hell if I dare click it.....even before I click
it! Every google website is pre-rated by NIS 2010, right on the Firefox
browser.

My Windows experience goes back to DOS 1.0 on an IBM PC running 4.77 Mhz on
on 8088 with 16K of RAM. All this Apple koolaid ******** from the fanboiz
base just doesn't wash.

I know complete computer ignorants running Win without any protection at
all and they very RARELY ever get infected, though their system is running
24/7 on a cable modem.....with no protection at all!

Your ******** just doesn't wash. It's CERTAINLY not worth pay double,
triple or worse to be in the reality distortion field coming out of
Cupertino and Daddy Steve's bank account.

Crossposted from ipad over here to ATTWS....and responded to in attws.

What the hell is iPad worrying over Windows viruses for, anyways??

--
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Larry

[nospam]

In article <Xns9D88F287147B7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> Billions of Windows users, worldwide, protected with some really nice
> products like Symantec's Norton series,

symantec norton is 'really nice' ??? you must be smoking something
strange.

i recently excised it from a pc, replacing it with a far better and
free alternative. i even had to hunt down an uninstaller, since the
normal windows remove program would not remove it. things run much
better now, *without* it.

> are totally unaffected by anything they click.

wrong.

> NIS 2010 won't even let me click on malware websites off
> Google without just raisin' hell if I dare click it.....even before I click
> it! Every google website is pre-rated by NIS 2010, right on the Firefox
> browser.

more hypocrisy. if apple pre-rated websites you'd be screaming how
they're watching your every move, but when google does it, you're
happy.

> My Windows experience goes back to DOS 1.0 on an IBM PC running 4.77 Mhz on
> on 8088 with 16K of RAM. All this Apple koolaid ******** from the fanboiz
> base just doesn't wash.

nor does nearly everything you say.

> I know complete computer ignorants running Win without any protection at
> all and they very RARELY ever get infected, though their system is running
> 24/7 on a cable modem.....with no protection at all!

********.

> Your ******** just doesn't wash. It's CERTAINLY not worth pay double,
> triple or worse to be in the reality distortion field coming out of
> Cupertino and Daddy Steve's bank account.

except the price is not double or triple.

> Crossposted from ipad over here to ATTWS....and responded to in attws.
>
> What the hell is iPad worrying over Windows viruses for, anyways??

it's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
couple of instances.

[Larry]

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:300520102109426221%
nospam@nospam.invalid:

> t's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
> are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
> couple of instances.
>
>

Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!


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Larry

[nospam]

In article <Xns9D8926A5C1Dnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> > t's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
> > are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
> > couple of instances.
>
> Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!

not by any definition of malware it isn't. where do you come up with
this idiocy?

[Your Name]

In article <Xns9D88F287147B7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
<noone@home.com> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:300520101900462534%
> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>
> > you're the exception. there's plenty of malware out there, including
> > some on android.
>
> Billions of Windows users, worldwide, protected with some really nice
> products like Symantec's Norton series, are totally unaffected by anything
> they click.

Loser Larry showing his ignorance again.

Norton / Symantec's software is garbage best avoided. Just like
Microsoft's software, it is buggy and bloated, as well as being a scam
with an annual fee to keep the databases up to date.

There is no piece of so-called "anti-virus" software that actually
recognises nor stops all malware. At best they're always playing catch-up
with the scum malware makers.

The only way to be malware free is to not use Windows at all, or not have
the computer ever connected to an outside data source (no Internet, no CDs
/ DVDs, no floppy disks, etc.).

[nospam]

In article
<your.name-3105101629130001@203-109-170-215.dial.dyn.ihug.co.nz>, Your
Name <your.name@isp.com> wrote:

> The only way to be malware free is to not use Windows at all, or not have
> the computer ever connected to an outside data source (no Internet, no CDs
> / DVDs, no floppy disks, etc.).

the biggest problem is the user, who can easily be tricked into doing
pretty much anything, and not just with computers. people fall for
scams all the time, give out their credit card numbers when they
shouldn't, wire money to nigeria, etc.

[Todd Allcock]

At 30 May 2010 21:09:42 -0700 nospam wrote:

> > NIS 2010 won't even let me click on malware websites off
> > Google without just raisin' hell if I dare click it.....even before I
click
> > it! Every google website is pre-rated by NIS 2010, right on the
Firefox
> > browser.
>
> more hypocrisy. if apple pre-rated websites you'd be screaming how
> they're watching your every move, but when google does it, you're
> happy.

That's because Google just rates them, then leaves it up to you. Apple
would just stop you from going to the ones it decided were bad, "for your
own good..." ;)


> > I know complete computer ignorants running Win without any protection
at
> > all and they very RARELY ever get infected, though their system is
running
> > 24/7 on a cable modem.....with no protection at all!
>
> ********.

Ok, you've played with enough Windows machines to know that anti-malware
software rings all kinds of alarm bells when you hit something, if just
to toot its own horn. How often do you hit a virus? Every one of my
Windows machines is protected, and I can count on one hand the number of
detected threats I've hit in the last couple of years. Of course, I
don't open attachments in emails from people I don't know, and I don't
visit porn or "warez" sites.

Computer viruses are like STDs- most of us know exactly how to avoid
them, even if we don't always do what we're supposed to!


> it's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
> are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
> couple of instances.


As Spidey's Uncle Ben always said, "With great power, comes great
responsibility..."

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In article <7ci606h5hucmoa7h9fsi759uilslbh8f1j@4ax.com>, John Navas
<jnspam1@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >The only way to be malware free is to not use Windows at all, or not have
> >the computer ever connected to an outside data source (no Internet, no CDs
> >/ DVDs, no floppy disks, etc.).
>
> I have Windows machines connected to the Internet and to other data
> sources, and I'm totally free of malware, so what you write simply
> cannot be true.

that's because you run anti-virus software, and have told others how
foolish it is not to do so.

[Michelle Steiner]

In article <Xns9D8926A5C1Dnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!

Your brain is malware.

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[Thomas R. Kettler]

In article <300520102117364644%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <Xns9D8926A5C1Dnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > > t's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
> > > are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
> > > couple of instances.
> >
> > Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!
>
> not by any definition of malware it isn't. where do you come up with
> this idiocy?

It's the voices in his head!
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[George Kerby]

On 5/30/10 11:13 PM, in article Xns9D8926A5C1Dnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13,
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote:

> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:300520102109426221%
> nospam@nospam.invalid:
>
>> t's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
>> are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
>> couple of instances.
>>
>>
>
> Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!
>
Now-now there, Lar. We may have to put you back on those anti-depressants if
you keep up this kind of behavior.

You know what that means, don't you?

No more Waffle House privileges, you bad boy!

[Jolly Roger]

In article <HIHMn.56618$HG1.4676@newsfe21.iad>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:

> Every one of my
> Windows machines is protected, and I can count on one hand the number of
> detected threats I've hit in the last couple of years.

Meanwhile, I don't have to count at all with my Mac, because there have
been exactly ZERO for the past 12 years.

In contrast, I have lost count (it's around 6, 7, 8, 9, was it 10? Hmmm,
maybe I need another hand to count!) how many times the corporate
Windows network of my employer has been attacked by Windows-only
viruses, worms and so on in that same period of time.

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[George Kerby]

On 5/31/10 9:09 AM, in article
tkettler-017247.10095531052010@news....-september.org, "Thomas R.
Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:

> In article <300520102117364644%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <Xns9D8926A5C1Dnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>, Larry
>> <noone@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> t's not. the point is there is *no* malware on an ipad and the chances
>>>> are exceedingly low that there could be. meanwhile, android has had a
>>>> couple of instances.
>>>
>>> Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!
>>
>> not by any definition of malware it isn't. where do you come up with
>> this idiocy?
>
> It's the voices in his head!

No. It's the Waffle House waitresses.

[Your Name]

"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
news:michelle-EAF4D6.00201731052010@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <Xns9D8926A5C1Dnoonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> > Stupid ****. iTunes is malware!
>
> Your brain is malware.

More like vaporware ... something often pre-hyped, but never shows up.

[Your Name]

"Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:jollyroger-D7353F.09244231052010@news.individual.net...
> In article <HIHMn.56618$HG1.4676@newsfe21.iad>,
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AnoOspamL.com> wrote:
>
> > Every one of my
> > Windows machines is protected, and I can count on one hand the number of
> > detected threats I've hit in the last couple of years.
>
> Meanwhile, I don't have to count at all with my Mac, because there have
> been exactly ZERO for the past 12 years.

In all my Mac usage since the very first model, a virus has been detected
exactly once ... and that was on a floppy disk from a Windows user. :-)



> In contrast, I have lost count (it's around 6, 7, 8, 9, was it 10? Hmmm,
> maybe I need another hand to count!) how many times the corporate
> Windows network of my employer has been attacked by Windows-only
> viruses, worms and so on in that same period of time.

This clapped out Windows 2000 computer gets something almost every week, and
that's with a so-called "anti-virus" program running ... and even when you
run scan from various software the malware isn't spotted or removed. In
fact, the only product I've found so far that actually does what it says on
the tin, find and remove malware, is called "Unhackme".

[Your Name]

"Kimmy Boyer" <KimaBoyer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4c040c32$1@news.x-privat.org...
>
> I know complete computer ignorants running Win without any protection at
> all and they very RARELY ever get infected, though their system is running
> 24/7 on a cable modem.....with no protection at all!

The problem is that a novice or someone using a fast computer and Internet
connection may never actually know they've been infected with malware.

Some of the crap that infects this Windows PC does things like "display" an
invisible window, so it's easy to spot since it blocks access to buttons and
menus at the top-left of the screen.

BUT some of it has no visible affect, other than slowing down and already
s-l-o-w PC. The only way I know there is something wrong is that the lights
on the dial-up modem flicker with data traffic when I know 100% that they
shouldn't be. Finding and removing the malware (usually by manually trawling
through the Registry!) then stops that happening.