Results 1 to 18 of 18

Thread: Windows 7 in 2011?

  1. #1
    Ohh Hell yeah.. Sava700's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    24,176

    Windows 7 in 2011?

    Well I hope Vista gets straightened out a little after SP1 for multiple reasons.
    I'd like to go back to it but can't stand how memory is used in it(go ahead YOS..fire back).

    I believe once the dust calms down Vista will be the next Xp as if I remember Xp had just as many if not more issues when it came out.

    The WinVistaClub reports that contrary to all that is being said on the net, it clearly looks like Microsoft is NOT planning to release Windows 7 in 2009. Microsoft's official response, by an Email dated 26th January, 2008, to WinVistaClub states that Windows 7 is still in the planning stage and will take approximately 3 years to develop. The following is the extract of the mail:

    Q. What is the expected timeline for the availability of Windows 7?
    A. We are currently in the planning stages for Windows 7 and expect it will take approximately 3 years to develop. The specific release date will be determined once the company meets its quality bar for release.
    Q. Has Windows 7 been released to manufacturing?
    A. We’re continuing to work with our partners on the development of Windows 7, and are not sharing any additional information at this time.
    Q. Is the schedule for Windows 7 being moved up due to poor Windows Vista sales?
    A. We’re not sharing additional information on Windows 7 at this time. However, we’re confident that many organizations are recognizing the value in Windows Vista. Of note, sales of Windows Vista licenses have now passed 100 million. In addition, Windows Vista is being adopted by businesses at a rate that is similar to past releases. In the business market there are early, mainstream and late adopters, with the majority of businesses falling into the category of mainstream. We’re seeing positive indicators that we’re already starting to move from the early adoption phase into the mainstream, and that more and more businesses are beginning their planning and deployment of Windows Vista.

    While the answers to the latter 2 questions may have been on predictable lines, what is important to note that Microsoft TODAY maintains that Windows 7 is STILL in the planning stages and it will take approximately 3 (more) years to develop.

    Windows has always drawn speculation; probably because it is so intrinsic to everything that we do with computers. Windows 7 was originally time-lined 2011, later reports put it at 2010; and now 2009 ! All this smoke of Windows 7, being released next year, may have led to confusion in the minds of the Windows Vista user. Did he make a mistake in upgrading? Or should he have waited? Microsoft feels that there is STILL a lot of innovation and value that needs to flow to the customers, from Vista.

    And should one put off plans to upgrade from XP ... and wait for Windows 7, instead ? Resist the temptation to do so! It too will have its share of problems which any 1st year OS is expected to ! Instead focus on moving forward with Vista, if you plan to upgrade from XP. The best time to do so, if you ask me, would be immediately after the final release of Vista SP1.
    source

  2. #2
    Moderator YeOldeStonecat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Somewhere along the shoreline in New England
    Posts
    49,801
    Quote Originally Posted by Sava700 View Post

    I believe once the dust calms down Vista will be the next Xp as if I remember Xp had just as many if not more issues when it came out.
    No..XP was fairly quickly adopted by business/corporate networks when it first came out. There are marketshare charts out there....comparing the adoption of a new OS from Microsoft within 9 months of it's release. I think Vista is approx 60% behind where XP was at the 9 month mark of its release.
    MORNING WOOD Lumber Company
    Guinness for Strength!!!

  3. #3
    Ohh Hell yeah.. Sava700's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    24,176
    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    No..XP was fairly quickly adopted by business/corporate networks when it first came out. There are marketshare charts out there....comparing the adoption of a new OS from Microsoft within 9 months of it's release. I think Vista is approx 60% behind where XP was at the 9 month mark of its release.
    Perhaps in a business environment..but for the general public it had its problems just as Vista has mostly to gamers. Vista isn't bad just needs some fine tuning in multiple places.

  4. #4
    Moderator YeOldeStonecat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    Somewhere along the shoreline in New England
    Posts
    49,801
    Quote Originally Posted by Sava700 View Post
    Perhaps in a business environment..but for the general public it had its problems just as Vista has mostly to gamers. Vista isn't bad just needs some fine tuning in multiple places.
    I can't recall even the home market having nearly as much backlash with XP as it does with Vista. Had no problems soon as I went to XP myself with lots of gaming. //shrug
    MORNING WOOD Lumber Company
    Guinness for Strength!!!

  5. #5
    Moderator Roody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    30,904
    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    I can't recall even the home market having nearly as much backlash with XP as it does with Vista. Had no problems soon as I went to XP myself with lots of gaming. //shrug
    It didn't have as much backlash as Vista did. It certainly had it's issues, but XP was a far more developed OS this early in then Vista was. Both on the business and home front.

  6. #6
    Certified SG Addict Indy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2000
    Location
    Amarillo, TX
    Posts
    25,600
    Blog Entries
    24
    Windows XP was leaps and bounds better, IMO, than it's predecessor - Windows 98/ME, in all facets of the OS. It was easier to set up for networking, and was a much smoother experience as far as ease of use for the first time user. Windows Vista is not leaps and bounds better than XP. I know from the standpoint of me working on a computer, I'd much rather work on an XP machine than a 98/ME machine. There's not as a compelling a reason for a person to switch from XP to Vista. With that said, I've only played around a little with Vista, and that was with the beta prior to it's launching. I've read too many articles about people having issues with Vista for me to give up on XP on the machines I have now. I'll just wait until after SP1 hits before venturing into those waters.

    Of course, I was just a stupid Comcast tech that only worked on about a thousand different computers a year. What would I know?
    ------
    “The most beautiful thing we can experience in life is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: for his eyes are closed.” - Albert Einstein

  7. #7
    Ohh Hell yeah.. Sava700's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    24,176
    Quote Originally Posted by Indy View Post
    Of course, I was just a stupid Comcast tech that only worked on about a thousand different computers a year. What would I know?
    lol I agree it is easier to workon a XP machine but thats cause thats all I've worked on here lately..when you throw a Vista machine at me I have to stand back a min and think a little before jumping in. I think Vista will come around but I still think it will be a while after SP1 and even then I hope they fix the memory issues which is what causes alot of problems to begin with.

  8. #8
    Elite Member TonyT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2000
    Location
    Fairfax, VA
    Posts
    10,073
    Windows XP was leaps and bounds better, IMO, than it's predecessor - Windows 98/ME, in all facets of the OS.
    XP predecessors are win98 and win 2k. XP was the first good working incarnation of the usability and ease of win98 and the stability/security of the nt kernel. ME was the first attemp by MS to include nt features in win98, but failed drastically. ME was a stepping stone for xp.
    No one has any right to force data on you
    and command you to believe it or else.
    If it is not true for you, it isn't true.

    LRH

  9. #9
    Second Most EVIL YARDofSTUF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    69,890
    Quote Originally Posted by YeOldeStonecat View Post
    I can't recall even the home market having nearly as much backlash with XP as it does with Vista. Had no problems soon as I went to XP myself with lots of gaming. //shrug
    Oh ya, I remember all the XP hate about activation and and when people started getting it and some apps from win98 not working people screaming about that. Older systems not running it fast enough, how it was going to be teh governments way to track and watch us... Happens with every OS change it seems lol

  10. #10
    Resident Rodent Randy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2000
    Location
    British Columbia Canada
    Posts
    11,806
    The problem is Vista is such crap in the public eye that even if it was fixed It would take a helluva marketing plan to regain the trust of the consumer.

    It will be abandoned. The next OS consumers will be cautious and wont do well out of the gates < no pun intended

    I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous

    sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box .

  11. #11
    Second Most EVIL YARDofSTUF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    69,890
    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    The problem is Vista is such crap in the public eye that even if it was fixed It would take a helluva marketing plan to regain the trust of the consumer.

    It will be abandoned. The next OS consumers will be cautious and wont do well out of the gates < no pun intended
    Vista won't be abandoned, its standard on new PCs, it has DX10 that gamers will want more as games come out using it, and the bad press is mostly from people running older systems or tech guys.

  12. #12
    Moderator Roody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    30,904
    Quote Originally Posted by YARDofSTUF View Post
    Vista won't be abandoned, its standard on new PCs, it has DX10 that gamers will want more as games come out using it, and the bad press is mostly from people running older systems or tech guys.
    Agreed.

  13. #13
    Resident Rodent Randy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2000
    Location
    British Columbia Canada
    Posts
    11,806
    Yos is right it wont be abandoned. It will be the junked OS that some will still use. or others have to use bcz they are n00bs

    I was going to post a link to that thread, but the SG search results for "bullsh|t" were too numerous

    sometimes you have to think outside the box to get inside the box .

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Ertlanta, Gargea
    Posts
    7,016
    Can vista be looked at like windows ME? I mean 'me' did find its way on a lot of consumer systems. I still think vista is in a league of its own when it comes to people disliking it. I had some slight issues with XP on release, I reverted back to 2000pro for a few months, reinstalled xp, and have used it ever since. Vista I have tried off and on (32 and 64 bit editions) about four times now. Every time I get overly annoyed and revert back to xp.

  15. #15
    Ohh Hell yeah.. Sava700's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2002
    Location
    Somewhere
    Posts
    24,176
    SP1 for Vista will have DX10.1 but you will need to get DX10.1 hardware the 9xxx series nvidia cards for example.

  16. #16
    Moderator Roody's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    Central Florida
    Posts
    30,904
    Quote Originally Posted by Shagster View Post
    Can vista be looked at like windows ME? I mean 'me' did find its way on a lot of consumer systems. I still think vista is in a league of its own when it comes to people disliking it. I had some slight issues with XP on release, I reverted back to 2000pro for a few months, reinstalled xp, and have used it ever since. Vista I have tried off and on (32 and 64 bit editions) about four times now. Every time I get overly annoyed and revert back to xp.
    Vista is the greatest OS ever compared to ME. That was a lousy OS.

  17. #17
    Second Most EVIL YARDofSTUF's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2000
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    69,890
    Quote Originally Posted by Shagster View Post
    Can vista be looked at like windows ME? I mean 'me' did find its way on a lot of consumer systems. I still think vista is in a league of its own when it comes to people disliking it. I had some slight issues with XP on release, I reverted back to 2000pro for a few months, reinstalled xp, and have used it ever since. Vista I have tried off and on (32 and 64 bit editions) about four times now. Every time I get overly annoyed and revert back to xp.
    From 2k to XP you werent making a big jump, the 98 to XP crowd have a similar reaction to XP to Vista upgraders.

    Windows ME will always be in a class of its own lol ME didnt offer much except a couple useless features over 98se, and it had more problems and was very unstable on lots of systems.

  18. #18
    Security Specialist greEd's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    807
    Here's a interesting read regarding Vista's current roll out.

    http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9046942
    "I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional...) for AT clones... It's not portable and it probably [won't ever] support anything other than AT hard disks, as thats all I have :-(." --Posted on Usenet August 1991 by Linus Trovalds
    http://www.computerglitch.net
    curiosity builds security | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=100
    EOF

Similar Threads

  1. Windows XP Service Pack 3 FAQ
    By Sava700 in forum Software Forum
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 01-29-08, 09:44 AM
  2. Microsoft Vista SP1 RC Public Release
    By Sava700 in forum Software Forum
    Replies: 32
    Last Post: 12-16-07, 11:11 PM
  3. Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool!
    By fords8 in forum Software Forum
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-11-07, 11:34 AM
  4. Yummy VISTA Home Premium
    By Lobo in forum Broadband Tweaks Help
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-04-07, 02:57 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •