ADSL VS CABLE (which is faster)

[Adsl_Dumbass]

Hello once again, i am, what my name says, and was wondering what broadband has better d/l speeds...

thanks,

Charlie

[fanta]

Depends on what package you subscribe to
Usually you get what you pay for, and depending on the providers in your area, speeds will always differ.
So I'd say it just depends on where you live... compare the prices to the speeds and there you have it.

[ 03-30-2001: Message edited by: fanta ]

[tomsykes]

We've got to look at this with a few assumptions. If there is no baseline for comparison, there's really not much point.

I'll use my experience as an example;

My cable is 10 Meg down, 768kbps up. Fastest speed I've ever had has been 8.7Mbps - you wont see that on residential ADSL.

the ADSL is a 6 Meg down, 832k up PVC. Fastest I've had has been approx 5.8Mbps.

Now - most services aren't going to achieve these speeds - because they'll be capped down. Despite what alot of people think, ADSL is shared with people in your area, as all the connections within your suburb (typically) are aggregated at your local phone exchange (central office for USA folk).

From here it's a shared link to the internet.

So, shop around

Cheers
Tom Sykes
Melbourne, Australia

[Lex Luthor]

The answer to this is simple.

It depends TOTALLY on YOUR own area.

It some areas DSL kicks cable's butt, in some cable destroys DSL. All depends on where you live.

You might want to go to dslreports.com and seach providers by zip to see what speeds are in your area.

Lex

[tomsykes]

I know that, but I am clearing myth.

[glc1]

Originally posted by tomsykes:
I know that, but I am clearing myth.

What myth? Sharing occurs eventually and DSL has a dedicated line from customer to CO, whereas cable is shared right off the bat.

[YeOldeStonecat]

Head on over to this thread, we just beat it to death a few days ago, I did a long blurp which I'm out of time to repeat.
http://161.58.189.82/cgi-bin/ultimat...=2&t=012327&p=

[tomsykes]

*groan*

Forget the wider internet for a minute, and focus on the network edge

It is believed by alot of people that DSL is totally dedicated to the external connection to the internet, hence it :

1) doesn't slow down in peak times
2) isnt affected by other "high" usage users
3) is more reliable than cable

They are the myths, which I have cleared.

Tom Sykes
Melbourne, Australia.

[glc1]

So are you saying that it slows down during peak hrs., is affected by high usage users, and is less reliable than cable? If so, you're not 100% correct, as it depends on the provider and area. Same deal w/ cable.

Main point: neither technology is better than the other and not any two providers/areas are identical.

[ 03-30-2001: Message edited by: glc1 ]

[tomsykes]

*groan*

[glc1]

Originally posted by tomsykes:
*groan*

Yeah, same to you.

[HalfLifer]

LOL

Settle guys, settle


DSL is shared after the CO, but its dedicated to the CO. Cable, you share right away.

[PrestonConnors]

Tell me what a dedicated unshared line to the CO is good for.

[HalfLifer]

My cable modem would whoop the crap out of any DSL service offered in michigan.

[glc1]

Originally posted by tomsykes:
From here it's a shared link to the internet.

All connections are eventually shared, not just DSL. This desn't present a problem unless the provider has poor business practices.

[rpeAMP]

Originally posted by Preston Connors:
Tell me what a dedicated unshared line to the CO is good for.

It's good because once the data goes through the CO, it has a clear path to the client therefore having less packet loss and latency issues to the gateway than cable, therefore relaying your information quicker than if sent over a highly congested line. I am not saying that cable is terribly bad because of this factor, it's just nice not having to worry about whether or not your performance will decrease when your neighbor gets online.

[ 03-31-2001: Message edited by: rpeAMP ]

[dannjr]

From the keyboard to the possessor through the 3com to the router from the router to through the bridge to the CO through the two Cisco’s nothing but net… The net slows me down. J

C:\>tracert speedguide.net

Tracing route to speedguide.net [216.167.23.73]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 30 ms 30 ms 35 ms user-33qtc81.dialup.mindspring.com

2 30 ms 35 ms 35 ms cisco-f3-0-0.chi.mindspring.net

3 90 ms 60 ms 60 ms t3-1-0-1.pr1.Chicago1.IL.us.netrail.net

Personally Iv been very fortunate with my DSL connection there are bad and good unfortunately more weird then good… Tech support makes a big difference. Services make a difference if I was on cable there would be know way I could have a server in anyway.
Some of the DSL companys are starting to restrict that now…

It gets down to one thing I’m happy with what I have

Yes that’s my whole connection right there…

Sure cable can be fast but this above kicks the heck out of some cable providers.. Such as Charter. Or a company like this http://www.primecablechi.com/internet_pricing.htm

Halflifter any cable beats DSL in Michigan.. That’s because the phone company forgets where they bury lines there, and bust them every time they dig..

[ 03-31-2001: Message edited by: dannjr ]

[tomsykes]

rpeAMP - i think you're still missing the point.

DSL connections are aggregated to the Central Office into a single, shared ATM stream to your ISP's core network and/or the internet. When your neighbour gets online, it *has the potential* to clog, just like cable does.

That doesn't mean it's going to, just indicating that it *can*.

Regards

Tom Sykes
Melbourne, Australia
2nd Year, B.Eng Telecommunications.

[YeOldeStonecat]

GLC1, I think you and I are the only two who can go up to 10,000 feet and see the overall picture.

It'll be one of those debates which will go on til it's replaced, like the PC vs CrApple Macs, AMD vs Intel, nVidia vs 3Dfx, etc etc.

The answer won't be whatever works best for that person based on some variables, whatever one picks, it'll be wrong according to others.