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gazza_k
09-28-02, 11:04 PM
i am new to networking and i have a cable internet connection. I was wondering the best way to share the connection between my two computers. Some people i have spoken to sugest a switching hub with a proxy, some a router.
I am running one comp with Windows ME with a P3 500 with 128 ram. The othere is an AMd athlon XP 2100+ with 512 ram.
Was wondering what your suggestions would be. Have about $400 australian dollars to spend, about $200 US

rpeAMP
09-29-02, 01:17 AM
If you want the easiest and best (or so I think) way to share your connection, I would get a Linksys BEFSR41 4-port switch/router or any other home router. Unless you have to set up your connection with PPPoE, it's just a simple plug and play. If your provider uses PPPoE as it's authentication method (you would know this because you have to login with PPPoE), it's as simple as typing in your login credentials to a web interface and clicking save.

gazza_k
09-29-02, 03:30 AM
thanx i will probbaly go and get a router now. ONe other Prb do you have any other sugggestions on brand of router as i am in Australia and dont get linksys.

Pains2
09-29-02, 03:57 AM
hi gazza,

If i where u i'd get a netgear, i also have one and depending on where u r in Oz, a netgear rt314 ..unless u get it from harvey normans should only set u back 350 or on ebay for 250. I'm with optushome, and it works a treat, super fast, had no problems, and support is great.

goodluck

gazza_k
09-29-02, 05:35 AM
thank you pains.
I am with telstra bigpond so the netgear should be fine.

YeOldeStonecat
09-29-02, 07:58 AM
I recommend using a router.
*Provides a constant on connection, each computer on your network can access the internet independantly, unlike software methods of sharing where a "server" computer has to be on all the time for others.
*Routers are also faster than software sharing, especially for online gaming.
*Routers also protect your network with a basic firewall (NAT), hiding your network.

Netgear makes one of the better home market routers. I also like Nexland routers very much...the fastest home market routers out there.

Weshy
09-29-02, 10:50 PM
Not sure what people here think about the Linksys 4 port Router but I was able to pick it up new for under 200AUD (approx. 100USD). That is a big saving from the others mentioned here.

Does the Linksys have some type of serious flaw? Why is it so much cheaper?

Weshy.

rpeAMP
09-30-02, 12:04 AM
Others here will insist certain routers over others. If you want a simple, cheap, and quick home network with semi-powerful routing options, the Linksys is a good bet. I bought mine for around $84 USD.

Now, if you want to do more advanced stuff with your router, or are considering running a game server, the Netgear or Nexland might be better suited for you.

tomsykes
09-30-02, 01:00 AM
Gazza.

Everyone sells Linksys here.

Try: http://www.ht.com.au/Scripts/xworks.exe?CAT:NL3#Tof

the SR41 - $189.

gazza_k
09-30-02, 02:32 AM
went and got the netgear rp114
seems alright to me took about 30 min to setup
dont need and not thinking about games server just need it to play multiplayer games over the internet and get driver updates and this does that
Thankyou everyone for the info

YeOldeStonecat
09-30-02, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Weshy
Not sure what people here think about the Linksys 4 port Router but I was able to pick it up new for under 200AUD (approx. 100USD). That is a big saving from the others mentioned here.

Does the Linksys have some type of serious flaw? Why is it so much cheaper?

Weshy.

No it doesn't have a serious flaw....it's inexpensive because it's a very basic router...with basic performance. For many people...that's all they need. I love them, for what they're used for, have probably installed over a hundred of them. It's my favorite brand entry level router (over the others like DLink, SMC, Assante, etc).

But some people like more performance, some run servers from their connection, and others who are hard core into online gaming demand performance....and an entry level router isn't about performance. It would be like building a gaming machine with an S3 Virge video card or using the onboard Intel 810 graphics chipset.

That's when you step a notch to Netgear, or step up several notches to Nexland, or Netopia, or even more to Sonic, or higher yet to Cisco.

gazza_k
09-30-02, 06:05 AM
do you see any problems with the netgear rp114

YeOldeStonecat
09-30-02, 06:10 AM
No I like Netgear routers.....their products are quite solid. Very stable, quite fast also compared to most others in the home market class. Only thing I wish Netgear would improve....is their web based administration utility.....is very dry and basic. To do more advanced functions...you need to use the old fashioned telnet, or serial cable/hyperterminal on some models. For the average home user, this can be daunting. But again, that's for advanced functions, which most home users will never need to bother with. The web based admin utility is where Linksys and Nexland have taken it to the tops.

Scott
09-30-02, 08:20 AM
It would be like building a gaming machine with an S3 Virge video card or using the onboard Intel 810 graphics chipset.

Uh, yeah, that might be stretching the comparison a bit. How much difference is the Nexland going to make over the Linksys for a gamer, 10-20 ms ping difference? Thats going to make some difference, depending on skill level.

Now the S3 Virge, you won't even be able to play most games anymore, none of the newer ones anyway. Put a good gamer with one of those and he/she would probably be toast every time.

The Linksys is fine for gaming, if its one or maybe two people sharing a connection, but then, it also depends on the quality of the connection. So, if squeezing the extra few ms of ping out of your connection is important, definitely get the better router, just don't expect it to make you a better player.

FWIW, next time I buy a router, it will be a Nexland, or maybe a Netopia.

YeOldeStonecat
09-30-02, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by Snuf
Uh, yeah, that might be stretching the comparison a bit. How much difference is the Nexland going to make over the Linksys for a gamer, 10-20 ms ping difference? Thats going to make some difference, depending on skill level.

Now the S3 Virge, you won't even be able to play most games anymore, none of the newer ones anyway. Put a good gamer with one of those and he/she would probably be toast every time.

The Linksys is fine for gaming, if its one or maybe two people sharing a connection, but then, it also depends on the quality of the connection. So, if squeezing the extra few ms of ping out of your connection is important, definitely get the better router, just don't expect it to make you a better player.



Yeah it's all in the level of the gamer, and what he/she insists on for standards. I was very involved two years ago with planetunrealtournament.com, and runegame.com, in the search for good routers to host game servers one. Hosting servers behind a router, and having several people connect at the same time behind the LAN on a router, playing out on some public server...that's one BIG difference in routers...the performance there. Entry level routers you'll often see performance issues, glitches, etc....when trying to host servers. More robust routers run them with ease. I did a tremendous amount of experimenting at home, testing several different routers...spending a lot of money. Top prize went to a Netopia R910...thing didn't bat an eye. I couldn't even get it's CPU utilization past 33%.

Problems on entry level routers included various "ghosting/skipping" on the clients part, spawning in odd places, or upside down, or even in solid objects, random WAN client disconnects...sudden "boots" of all WAN clients, but not someone playing on the LAN side.

Performance differences.....as more and more local clients log in on your LAN, they introduce lag to existing people....one person alone would ping say 50...have a second person log on...both pings now at 75...have a third person log on....now everyone pings at say 100...fourth person...all pings at 200. I'd swap the Linksys for a Netgear....a little more power..first person pings at say 50..second logs in...now both pings at 60..third person logs in..now all pings at say 80......notice the ping increase per person is less? Then I'd try the Netopia...I'd go up to 6 people logging in...and from the first person..to the fifth person...pings stayed dead on even. Sixth person logged in...lag starts climbing..but my WAN connection is now sapped. So the Netopia router wasn't maxed out at all...could take all I threw at it. Also ran servers well from behind it without a glitch.

It's just that...getting a router is kind of expensive for some people...and it always sucks when you try to get something, have it for a while, then find some issues or problems..where you say to yourself "Man, I should have gotten THAT one."

koldchillah
10-02-02, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Weshy
Not sure what people here think about the Linksys 4 port Router but I was able to pick it up new for under 200AUD (approx. 100USD). That is a big saving from the others mentioned here.

Does the Linksys have some type of serious flaw? Why is it so much cheaper?

Weshy.

I don't really think it's that expensive to get a good router. Even as performance increases, the prices stay within $30 unless you get into high end performance routers such as Netopia or Cisco.

Linksys BEFSR41 - $68 @newegg(shipping included)
Netgear RP614 - $68 @newegg
Netgear RP114 - $73 @newegg
and my friend called me yesterday saying he picked up the Nexland ISB SOHO - $99.99 @ CompUSA (sale special)(West Palm Beach).

If you spend over a $100 on a router, even a good one for gaming, then you probably did so in order to take advantage of more advanced features that aren't really needed by everyone in the home environment. Of course international prices vary but in the US, you can get the best home router for a relatively small price increase over the cheapies..

Linksys - entry level
Netgear - home performance
Nexland - finest home performance

Docsta
10-02-02, 08:23 PM
oh lord whatever you do dont get a netgay... oh man what crappy azz router

Docsta
10-02-02, 08:28 PM
the best routers are either nexland or a linky.. the befsr41 is very good quality..good price...and easy to setup, plus good built in firewall

BaLa
10-02-02, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Docsta
oh lord whatever you do dont get a netgay... oh man what crappy azz router
that's absurd..

from what I've read the Netgear will outperform the linky any day...

Docsta
10-02-02, 08:43 PM
lol...yea ok..and im rosanne barr. i see more netgear returned where i work ...either they wont turn on, dont work period...the connection is the back are bad.dont detect anything being plugged into them...the only reason i see linky's returned is either the moron who bought them doesnt know how to configure them, or they didnt need it in the first place.

Docsta
10-02-02, 08:44 PM
and as youve said...you havent seen em first hand have ya? i have...do you believe everything you read? i hope not... because if you had my job for a day id bet youd see 5 netcraps come back PER DAY. and im not jokin

BaLa
10-03-02, 02:05 AM
unfortunately I bought the linksys instead of the Netgear router back when I got my cable modem...
oh well...
I've been happy with my linky..
I'm sure I'd be just as happy with teh netgear though...

YeOldeStonecat
10-03-02, 06:37 AM
Originally posted by Docsta
the best routers are either nexland or a linky.. the befsr41 is very good quality..good price...and easy to setup, plus good built in firewall

LOL...to see those brands both in the same sentence.

Nexland I'll leave alone...they rule.

Sorry, Netgears will dance circles around Linksys routers any day. I've done probably over a 100 Linksys router installs, and over a dozen Netgear installs. I've replaced many Linksys routers already, have had to ship quite a few back...that classic RED DIAG light stuck on syndrome that signals their demise. I've only had to send back a single Netgear product..(and I install a log of them)...it was a switch. You're comparing a 50 dollar entry level router with mostly 150 dollar SOHO routers in Netgears range, which are faster, rock solid, metal case you can throw against the wall instead of that little plastic case that looks like it will blow off if you sneeze next to it. Run some benchmarks to compare the built in switches in the two...huge difference in performance. Connect a large network to the two...see which one holds it's performance when 25 or more workstations are download through it. Big difference there also.

Not saying the Linksys sucks, it's a good "entry level router"..but remember...it's just that..entry level.

"Plus a good built in firewall"....LOL....all routers have a basic NAT firewall...it's how they work...single WAN IP translated to a private Class C LAN subnet. But Linksys doesn't go as far as Netgear and others do...with DoS protection, and Stateful Packet Inspection and other more advanced firewall features.

Docsta
10-03-02, 10:23 AM
Stonecat? rofl...how much did netgear pay you to spout out that mumble jumble? :rotfl:

I dont where youve gotten your netcrap routers or why theyve worked for you...they are just the biggest pieces of lard ive ever seen or worked with. "Dance Circles" uhhh no. i dont think so.
the red diag stuck on syndrome? Umm..the last time i checked dude ever router has that problem..linksys, nexland, netgear, you name you..you just cant single linky out the easy way buddy. :p

or hey..maybe its because i live in Georgia and all the rednecks down har in dis part o duh country dont how tuh huuk up uh routerrr. :rolleyes:

YeOldeStonecat
10-03-02, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by Docsta
Stonecat? rofl...how much did netgear pay you to spout out that mumble jumble? :rotfl:

Nothing...it's what I do for a living...install/setup/support networks.

I get "hands on" with all brands...in sheer numbers!

BlackSword
10-03-02, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat

Performance differences.....as more and more local clients log in on your LAN, they introduce lag to existing people....one person alone would ping say 50...have a second person log on...both pings now at 75...have a third person log on....now everyone pings at say 100...fourth person...all pings at 200. I'd swap the Linksys for a Netgear....a little more power..first person pings at say 50..second logs in...now both pings at 60..third person logs in..now all pings at say 80......notice the ping increase per person is less? Then I'd try the Netopia...I'd go up to 6 people logging in...and from the first person..to the fifth person...pings stayed dead on even. Sixth person logged in...lag starts climbing..but my WAN connection is now sapped. So the Netopia router wasn't maxed out at all...could take all I threw at it. Also ran servers well from behind it without a glitch.

I agree. I have the Nexland pro400. I have had a CS server up with 10 WAN connections. As the number of people came in, there was ZERO increase to anyone's ping. I use to have Linksys, and lag would increase with Number of peeps on plus many peeps complained on quality of connection, meaning the game seemed choppy.

koldchillah
10-03-02, 01:29 PM
Hey Docsta,, with all due respect, don't be messin' wit StoneCat.. If he dropped knowledge the ground you stand on would shake.. I myself know my share about networking in terms of how it's applied on my job and his job is very similar to mine except I can tell he's been doing it a lot longer....

I'm no moderator but I'll all I'm sayin' is be respectful and watch who you be dawgin' .. aiight playa!?

Just for your info, our company (I work 2 jobs, managing my own company outside of the other) is replacing all 35 of our 25-port Linksys switches and routers with Netgear because of lack of quality product support and too many switches having ports go bad over time... it comes down to their sh*t isn't made to last.. Linksys= tinker toys of network hardware.. It's for the monkeys to setup..

Indiebands
10-03-02, 02:49 PM
Ok this is my deal that I've been wondering as of late. I have comcast cable formly @home. Right now I have a cable modem connected to a hub which is then connected to two seperate pc's. I then pay something like an extra $7 for a seperate IP address for my second computer.

Would I be better off just getting a router? Wouldn't it save me $$$ in the long run? Will it work and faster/better than my hub? Should I not even bother with it if what I have works? Oh and I have $100 to spend on a router if I'm to go that route. So what's the best I can get for $100 if the router is suggested??

koldchillah
10-03-02, 04:00 PM
I don't know about in your area, but down in West Palm Beach, CompUSA is selling the Nexland ISB SOHO for $99.99, which is the best home router on the market right now,.. and yes,, it will better your setup in the long run.

YeOldeStonecat
10-03-02, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Indiebands

Would I be better off just getting a router? Wouldn't it save me $$$ in the long run? ?

Yes....I'd suggest a router...not so much to save money, but it also gives you basic firewall protection through it's NAT...hides your network.

Docsta
10-03-02, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by koldchillah33
Hey Docsta,, with all due respect, don't be messin' wit StoneCat.. If he dropped knowledge the ground you stand on would shake.. I myself know my share about networking in terms of how it's applied on my job and his job is very similar to mine except I can tell he's been doing it a lot longer....


what am i supposed to be threatened? I could care less how much another person knows. The only difference between Stonecat and i is that he's had different experiences with routers than I have. PERIOD. I like linksys havent had any problems with the hundreds ive seen, but he has? so what who gives, life moves on.

"I'm no moderator but I'll all I'm sayin' is be respectful and watch who you be dawgin' .. aiight playa!?"

I can tell from that sentence you dont even belong in this thread. And second of all you dont know what your talking about. I like StoneCat a lot, and i didnt disrespect him or in your lame words "dawg" him. So next time how about you stay out of threads and dont cause an arguement..aight playa??!! :rolleyes:

Noevo
10-04-02, 12:09 AM
I love my Nexland :)

My dads dog sneezed and his Linksys died. Coincidence? I think snot.

Docsta
10-04-02, 12:46 AM
lol noevo...doh!


is this the one you have?

http://www.nexland.com/products/product.cfm?id=6

downhill
10-04-02, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by Docsta
what am i supposed to be threatened? I could care less how much another person knows. The only difference between Stonecat and i is that he's had different experiences with routers than I have. PERIOD. I like linksys havent had any problems with the hundreds ive seen, but he has? so what who gives, life moves on.

"I'm no moderator but I'll all I'm sayin' is be respectful and watch who you be dawgin' .. aiight playa!?"

I can tell from that sentence you dont even belong in this thread. And second of all you dont know what your talking about. I like StoneCat a lot, and i didnt disrespect him or in your lame words "dawg" him. So next time how about you stay out of threads and dont cause an arguement..aight playa??!! :rolleyes:

Docsta.....what's it going to take to get you to post on a more civil platorm?

I won't bother pm'ing you, but I'd like you to start rereading this thread and see if you can figure out the problem.

Noevo
10-04-02, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Docsta
lol noevo...doh!


is this the one you have?

http://www.nexland.com/products/product.cfm?id=6


this is the one I have

http://www.nexland.com/products/product.cfm?id=2

koldchillah
10-04-02, 12:02 PM
Docsta, I am shocked at your sensitivity and I sincerely apologize for making you feel threatened. It's just a thread on a great forum and although I respect your opinions, I just believe that you haven't really been doing so to many others on these forums. No, maybe you're right, you didn't outright disrespect stonecat on a personal level, just a little friendly taunting I suppose, but you post a lot in several threads and several times, (I'm not even gonna waste my time pointing them out.) it turns out to be an attack on someone else's opinion rather than your own intelligent perspective. Perhaps a valium or two might help calm your angry aggression.

and by the way... You obviously care how much other people know, because you always have to make a comment on their knowledge and then go on to illustrate obnoxiously how your opinion is far superior.. so instead of telling people to get off threads, perhaps you should take a moderators advice and reread this thread and perhaps dig up a few old ones while your at it so that other people don't have to waste their time reminding you.

Indiebands, go get yourself a router and don't throw out Netgear as a possibility.. They are very solid. I apologize to everyone else for my long outburst, I'm done now and I hope Docsta learns to chill as well. I plan to post on SG well into the future so, Docsta, no I'm not gonna get off threads on your command but I offer to end with "hand shake" so we can all get back to topics at hand.

Docsta
10-04-02, 01:21 PM
dude i dont know where you get off saying i think my opinion is far superior. whats ur problem dude? I simply stated my opinion and it seems you dont like it...i could care less if you like my opinion or anyone elses. Im gonna post what i think about certain things and thats THAT. Am i insulting, or thinking im superior? no im not, but in your brain somewhere you dig up the idea that i am? i have no idea how you get that. So tell you what, when im posting my opinion, and having a conversation with someone else in a nice manner, next time dont start this silly arguement that we're in..we woulda been just fine without your input bashing me for things i never did.

so as far as i am concerned and you are concered,,,hands shaken. this discussion is over.

Noevo
10-04-02, 01:57 PM
I'm thinking he's read your posts, like he said, and got that idea.

You make statements like "its a fact" when it's really an opinion

you call people dumb or question their intelligence when they choose something different than you.

You could care less of other peoples opinions is exactly part of your problem. You aren't even open to the possibility that there may be a choice other than the one you say or have accepted.

and you do insult people in the majority of your posts.

etc...etc...etc...


And thats, I think, about as politely as it can be put.

Originally posted by Docsta
Am i insulting, or thinking im superior?

do you read what you post?

Docsta
10-04-02, 02:19 PM
first off noevo, i never called anyone dumb, and btw, thank you for putting words in my mouth AGAIN. you have no clue what ur talkin about.. if you consider my posts insulting..why dont you get out in the real world for a change..my goodness, thats sad man.

second of all didnt we already said "HANDS SHAKEN" please dont start something useless again just for the sake of starting an arguement. It seems you like that kinda thing. Incase you didnt know Noevo..we ending this arguement already...thanks :D

Indiebands
10-04-02, 02:30 PM
Well it seems like the verdict is to get a router. I assume the configuration can't be that hard and well my place is already wired because of the hub. The question is how good is the Nexland ISB SOHO and if I can get it for $100 is that a good deal????

Docsta
10-04-02, 02:52 PM
yea man i think so...my friend amro on these forums used to have a soho router, and i liked it a lot...the look of it is pretty dang cool man.

Noevo
10-04-02, 03:09 PM
Docsta-

netgear are great! I can't believe anyone would be dumb enough to think a linksys router is a better choice than that. At least I had enough brains not to buy a linksys.

Indiebands
10-04-02, 03:18 PM
Is it true that the linksys has problems running servers too? That sucks though it seems as if nexland only makes top of the line products and their one home router seems to be the best. Sorry I just want to make the best choice with my cash. Good thing I came here though cause I've always heard that one popular linksys that they even reviewed on this site was pretty good.

Oh btw the nexland won't have any problems with dynamic ISP's will it???

Docsta
10-04-02, 03:21 PM
Well im so happy for you noevo :p And i cant believe anyone would be dumb enough to buy a netgear. so see...two wondeful opinions aint it great??:D Im very impressed with your brain power as well. Im so glad we could have this bonding :)

Docsta
10-04-02, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Indiebands
Is it true that the linksys has problems running servers too? That sucks though it seems as if nexland only makes top of the line products and their one home router seems to be the best. Sorry I just want to make the best choice with my cash. Good thing I came here though cause I've always heard that one popular linksys that they even reviewed on this site was pretty good.

Oh btw the nexland won't have any problems with dynamic ISP's will it???

no linksys dont have problems running servers...some other people might think they do...but im running a server at my house, and a have many other colleagues who run linksys servers, and they work great. Thats just my take on it.

BlackSword
10-04-02, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Indiebands
Oh btw the nexland won't have any problems with dynamic ISP's will it??? I think you mean dynamic IPs? No problem with dynamic IPs. I would doubt that any home router would have a problem with dynamic IPs.

As far as a game server and Linksys,, I can only say that when I tried approximately 1 year ago, that the linky was not up to par. How are they now with newer firmware, I honestly cant say. All I can say is that I am happy with my Nexland router. I can’t comment on any other server, as I have never tried any other than gaming.

Indiebands
10-04-02, 03:32 PM
Ok cause I'd seen this brought up in two seperate review yet I hadn't heard any posters say anything about this. Thanks!

Noevo
10-04-02, 03:46 PM
i have a Dynamic IP and my Nexland has never had a problem with it. I also run an FTP server and, asided from bandwidth cap limitations, I have never had problems with it.

From what I have read and seen it's the processor that is a difference between the nexland/netgear vs. the Linksys and other lesser routers. Just more robust.

FYI- Even though I have a nexland Pro400 I really set out to by the SOHO. I just got lucky getting the pro instead. For the price difference from the nexland to either the netgear or liksys it seems worth it to me.

Of course, this is just my opinion and take from it what you choose. But don't forget to do some more research on your own if you are more comfortable.

Indiebands
10-04-02, 03:50 PM
Yea it was IP. ISP was just a typo sorry hehehe. Maybe the reason some haven't had the server problem that I've heard of cause the linksys has since updated their firmware??

YeOldeStonecat
10-04-02, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Indiebands
Is it true that the linksys has problems running servers too? Oh btw the nexland won't have any problems with dynamic ISP's will it???

Earlier firmware versions on Linksys routers had some issues with servers running games based on the Unreal Tournament engine, they fixed that around 1.39 - 1.40 or so. I don't know of any issues with the Q3 engine. But once you start having a decent amount of clients connect...the Linksys starts to struggle...you'll see pings go up.

Trust me...if you're concerned about performance, gaming, etc....don't skimp on your decision.

Intel Celeron's work OK for most people out there (and there's nothing wrong with that)....but some peeps want the best (gamers, power users)...and P4's or AMD XP's are what they get. Which CPU would you choose? OK, now which router would you use?

Dynamic account with your ISP? All routers work fine with that.

YeOldeStonecat
10-04-02, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Noevo

FYI- Even though I have a nexland Pro400 I really set out to by the SOHO. I just got lucky getting the pro instead. For the price difference from the nexland to either the netgear or liksys it seems worth it to me.

I'm still jealous about that you know...I remember that from last year.....

I run the dual WAN model at the office though, Symantec's 200R...which is a slightly modified Pro 400 they OEM from Nexland and add some VPN features. The thing sure has some serious nutz!

Noevo
10-04-02, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
I'm still jealous about that you know...I remember that from last year.....

I run the dual WAN model at the office though, Symantec's 200R...which is a slightly modified Pro 400 they OEM from Nexland and add some VPN features. The thing sure has some serious nutz!


:p I wasn't the only one so I can't gloat too much lol


slightly off topic...we are starting to play with hardware firewalls at work for home users on cable modems. We're using Sofaware S-Box's, security is through Checkpoint. Any experience with the likes of these? I have a Wins question regarding them if you do.

BlackSword
10-04-02, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by Noevo
:p I wasn't the only one so I can't gloat too much lol


slightly off topic...we are starting to play with hardware firewalls at work for home users on cable modems. We're using Sofaware S-Box's, security is through Checkpoint. Any experience with the likes of these? I have a Wins question regarding them if you do. hehe,, I was the other one,,, lol,, they ran out of SOHO class and gave me Pro400 at no upcharge.:)

Noevo
10-04-02, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by BlackSword
hehe,, I was the other one,,, lol,, they ran out of SOHO class and gave me Pro400 at no upcharge.:)

yay us :D

exact same here

YeOldeStonecat
10-04-02, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by BlackSword
hehe,, I was the other one,,, lol,, they ran out of SOHO class and gave me Pro400 at no upcharge.:)

:cry: Waaa waaaaa:cry: :cry:

Why didn't I order the same time you guys did...

YeOldeStonecat
10-04-02, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Noevo
:p I wasn't the only one so I can't gloat too much lol


slightly off topic...we are starting to play with hardware firewalls at work for home users on cable modems. We're using Sofaware S-Box's, security is through Checkpoint. Any experience with the likes of these? I have a Wins question regarding them if you do.

I've done some....if WINS isn't running on the LAN, I've had to resort to the "poor mans WINS"...known as lmhost files.

Noevo
10-04-02, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by YeOldeStonecat
I've done some....if WINS isn't running on the LAN, I've had to resort to the "poor mans WINS"...known as lmhost files.


trying to avoid an lmhosts file. But, at this point it's either that or change a database so it points to an IP and not a name :(

I don't want to point to an IP. ick.

WINS is running, but for some reason it's not resolving through the Sofaware box once connected (even tried adding the WINS IP to the remote machine but still nada). can map to a drive using the ip and start run //IP but, well, you know how it goes heh.

I may have to RTFM a little more closely lol

garyinri
10-07-02, 01:53 PM
Anyone have any thoughts/recommendations/comments on the Netgear R614?
Currently on sale on CompUSA for $60.

YeOldeStonecat
10-07-02, 08:48 PM
Netgear makes in my opinion the best mid range routers for home/SOHO. Quite a bit faster than others such as Linksys....a lot more stable also. No hard resets needed like some. Nice solid units.

Only thing is their web admin is very "dry"...more advanced features have to be set through the old fashioned telnet...which can be daunting for newbies. If only used for basic purposes...this is a non-issue.

koldchillah
10-08-02, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by garyinri
Anyone have any thoughts/recommendations/comments on the Netgear R614?
Currently on sale on CompUSA for $60.

the RP614 is extremely easy to setup for newbies... Its a nice midrange router with the entry level feel. Much easier to setup than my RT314 was at first, which needed a firmware upgrade for me to get it working properly with roadrunner & winxp. My netgear has never been reset due to a problem. Only moved and switched ISP's once in the 2 years I've owned it. Very pleased with its performance so far as my network is growing across my house through the walls and now has the LAN party capacity for 8 PC's which has only been tested at 6. It had no problems during a 6 player Tiberium Sun match using a netgear switch.