Besfw14 Ver 2 And Zyxel Modem 642 Cannot Make Them Work Together

[The Highlander]

Modem Prestige 642

I cannot get them to work together.

There is no way I can access my DSL modem through the telnet feauture. What do I need to set up here?My modem is set to 192.168.1.1 and I've changed the router to 192.168.1.2. But I get no internet access...

If I do not use a router I need no programs to access my DSL. The modem connects automatically AS PPPoE. How do I make the router ask the modem to get the info and if it is done that way how do I get to do the port fowarding if using only one computer connected to the modem will not foward any ports. I figured this is a technique implemented so nobody can run any kind of servers.

Every light is working. If I change the cables and use it as a swith it works fine, but I wont be able to get any port fowarding nor anything like that.

I have disabled the DHCP server on the modem, etc etc etc and no luck....

I installed a Netgear 4 port and everything worked great. I set the DSL modem as a DHCP server. I made the WAN port the client
I made the DSL modem DMZ the wan address given to the wan port of the linksys and set up on each pc the gateway address the WAN Port.


Now I am using it as a switch... The only difference is that in the internet access type the netgear had an option that said ethernet which is what I need on the linksys...

When they state the specify address the want you to specify the external address... The one which I do not see.

Please help, although it is working, I would like to install it the correct way...

What should be every IP for everything?

Thanks

[earthmofo]

Log onto the routers setup page.

If you need to enter the Host and Domain name for your Service Provider

Lan IP address should be set to default (192.168.1.1) as well as Subnet Mask (255.255.255.0) .

Set Wan to Optain an IP address Automatically.

If you need to login for your DSL connection set Login Options then apply all changes.

Next, click on the routers DHCP tab and make sure it's enabled. Default Starting IP Address should be 192.168.1.100. Again, click on Apply to save changes.

Click on the routers Status tab. Click on DHCP Release then after everything resets click on DHCP Renew. You should now have the IP Address and everything on the Wan side from your Provider. If that didn't happen then you may have to clone the MAC Address of your NIC. TO do this click on the routers Advanced tab then the Mac Address Clone tab and enter the Mac Address of your NIC and Apply changes.


On your computer be sure to set your network connection to optain an IP address automatically then reboot.

[The Highlander]

That didn't work...

This is more or less what I want to do...

Lets say I have a computer that has direct connection with the internet...

I want to connect the router this way...

Internet--->Example Computer with IP 192.168.1.1----> router linksys----> whole bunch of computers to share internet...

The thing is that my modem deals already with the dialing and all that... there is no need for the router to do so...

I will never see my outside IP unless I either go to a site that checks it or I go to the command line of the modem and ask for it...

So my WAN IP address should be 192.168.1.xxxx


This is how I am connecting:

My settings are...

ip 192.168.1.x
SNetMask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.1.1


Now my modem is 192.168.1.1 and I connect to it via a crosover cable...

Thanks






Hope you can help me out better with this example..

[DaveM]

I was just curious why you want to have the Linksys router in addition to the Router built into the ADSL modem itsel?

The Prestige 642 Series
Multi-Mode ADSL Bridge/Router also handles PPPoE.

Ease of Use and Management
- Prestige 642R's windows-based GUI (Prestige Network Commander, PNC) program makes the configuration easy for the users while saving time and support effort for service providers

PPP Support
- PPP (RFC 1661)
- PPP over AAL5 (RFC 2364)
- PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE, RFC 2516)
- Call scheduling*
[* Future Feature ]

Internet Access Sharing (Router only)
- SUA (Single User Account)/NAT (Network Address Translation) enables multiple PCs on the LAN to access the Internet for the cost of only one IP address
- NAT supports PAT (Port Address Translation) and Multimedia Application, ie NetMeeting, ICQ, CuSeeMe, etc

Routing Protocols (Router only)
- IP/IPX Routing -RIP1, RIP2 and static route
- IP Alias
- DHCP server, DHCP client and DHCP relay
- DNS relay
- IP Policy Routing
- IGMP for IP multicast

http://www.zyxel.com/product/model.php?indexcate=1022047578&indexcate1=1021877946&indexFlagvalue=1021873638

Download the manual here :
ftp://ftp.zyxel.com/p642r/document/p642r_v1_UsersGuide.pdf

You shouldn't need the Linksys Router. Your modem does all the same and more.

Perchance you just need to learn how to accurately setup your Modem as a DHCP server and get your home network running! So just add a switch or a hub to share the connection (preferably a 10/100 switch) between up to 128 dynamic addressed computers on your home lan. And you should be set. Correct me if I am wrong. But from what I gather your modem is the same one I list here with the router built in!

[The Highlander]

I had the same netgear as you did and it worked great with my setup. I just wanted the access point that is it, so I am using the router as a switch.

[The Highlander]

i just wanted to connect it the way it was meant to that is all

[DaveM]

Okie dokie.
I was just curious. I didn't know if you knew of all the features of the ADSL Modem that you have!!!
I wish I could help you, but I have little experience with DSL and no experience with configuring your Modem.

I do think you need to set up your secondary router as a DHCP client AND server Behind a DHCP server. There is some kind of name for it, but it is something I saw somewhere in tje linksys manual.

The best of luck to you, I'm sure you'll get more help from this forum then I've been able to provide (hint hint hint people).

[earthmofo]

Originally posted by The Highlander
That didn't work...

This is more or less what I want to do...

Lets say I have a computer that has direct connection with the internet...

I want to connect the router this way...

Internet--->Example Computer with IP 192.168.1.1----> router linksys----> whole bunch of computers to share internet...

The thing is that my modem deals already with the dialing and all that... there is no need for the router to do so...

I will never see my outside IP unless I either go to a site that checks it or I go to the command line of the modem and ask for it...

So my WAN IP address should be 192.168.1.xxxx


This is how I am connecting:

My settings are...

ip 192.168.1.x
SNetMask 255.255.255.0
default gateway 192.168.1.1


Now my modem is 192.168.1.1 and I connect to it via a crosover cable...

Thanks






Hope you can help me out better with this example..

The problem is that the modem is using the same addresses that the router has by default. You just need to change the routers setup.

In the routers Setup page change the Lan IP address to 192.168.1.100 and the Subnet Mask to any other address that is listed in the drop down menu and apply changes. Please Note that the address to access the routers setup page will change to the new address instead of 192.168.1.1.

Click on the DHCP tab and change the starting address to 192.168.1.150 and apply changes.

This should take care of the problem.

[The Highlander]

I did that in the first place... I have installed many many lans, I just cant get this thing to work like the netgear...

The netgear has an option in the internet access that says ETHERNET, I guess this one is using the static IP crap...


Anyways... I've never been able to get them to work and this it the 3rd one I have owned...

[pino]

have you try without crossover cable but with the are there one ?

[The Highlander]

yes hardware installation is not a problem... is a configuration problem.. I have set it up as I did with the netgear also, setting all DHCP as they supposed to and it works flawlessly... but this one doesnt and it is because of the way it sets up the wan port... when you specify static IP I guess its expecting a WAN IP for it to do its routing not a LAN IP. I have tried setting up the WAN IP with a different private IP IE 192.168.0.1 to see if it sees it differently and doesnt try to look for it elsewhere and nothing..

[ScottE]

Originally posted by The Highlander
yes hardware installation is not a problem... is a configuration problem.. I have set it up as I did with the netgear also, setting all DHCP as they supposed to and it works flawlessly... but this one doesnt and it is because of the way it sets up the wan port... when you specify static IP I guess its expecting a WAN IP for it to do its routing not a LAN IP. I have tried setting up the WAN IP with a different private IP IE 192.168.0.1 to see if it sees it differently and doesnt try to look for it elsewhere and nothing..


I'm not completely sure as to what you are trying to do, but this will work. Connect from the modem to the "uplink" port on the router. Under the Dynamic Routing config page of the modem set the modem to act as a "Router" and not a "Gateway" Now under the Static Route Config Page make an entry as follows

Destination Lan IP Address 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway 192.168.1.1
Hop Count 1
Interface LAN


Like I said I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but if the modem is acting a router then this is what you need to do to get the linksys working with your modem.

[The Highlander]

Thanks I will try and do that... I just connected to another port on the switch that was it. I can still do routing then through the lan part?

Thanks

[ScottE]

Originally posted by The Highlander
Thanks I will try and do that... I just connected to another port on the switch that was it. I can still do routing then through the lan part?

Thanks


Well, not exactly. Since your DSL modem/router is going to be the thing with the external (public) IP address all you are going to be able to do with the linksys is share the internet access, you aren't going to be able to run servers or anything like that behind it. I'm still not exactly sure exactly what you are trying to do here, maybe you could clarify it.


Are you trying to hook up from the DSL Modem to the router and then connect all the computers to the router? Or are you trying for something else?

[The Highlander]

Exactly... that is what I am trying to do...

My DSL modem doesn't have the capability of port fowarding as well as the router... So if I set my linksys after the DSL router and my computers to my router as you state above I can put the DMZ host to the router and let the router deal with ports and stuff...

I had it like this with the netgear, but there is no netgear around here when I bought the Wireless router.

Any helps would be greatly appreciated...

If I could just have some sort of lan connection with the WAN or something like that, i mean.. the DSL modem has an IP set to 192.168.1.1 and my router to 192.168.1.2. I want to be able to connect the modem through the WAN port and get internet connection, after that, all the rest im ok and know how to do it, but this router doesn't want to connect to a lan ip as the WAN...