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Matrf
08-02-02, 07:45 PM
Hi all , as you maybe know , all isp on Quebec province that provide cable and dsl service have now BANDWHIT LIMITS.


Most have 5 gig of up and 5gig of down.



Its commings like that over all the Canada and usa , or just here in Québec state ?


Its tru that the bandwhit is very costly for ISP ?


I personaly think that they do that because they don't want to cut the commercial market , i am right?



sorry for bad english.

DaveM
08-02-02, 09:54 PM
AT&T Broadband in the USA only has limits on the speed.

Currently they do not have limits on the amount of data that you send and receive.

For the majority of customers data transfer limits shouldn't be a problem.

The people who it will affect are people who run FTP servers for pirated warez or music.

And people who frequent the FTP servers and IRC channels downloading full blown illegal copies of pirated software or music.

I doubt that a family of 5: ma, pa, and three children would hit 5GB up/down data transfer limits if they were casual surfers and listners of broadband audio / video streams.

The Data transfer limits are a direct result of the Warez Data scene and illegal music download scene.

Yes bandwidth costs the ISP money. It costs them a great deal of money. And if the ISP doesn't have adequate control over their customers use of bandwidth they will go the route of @HOME and die a miserable death.

Especially, now, with technology stock prices dropping, Corporations showing they've been lieing about their books for years, now the individual companies are seeing more accurate details on cost analysis and need to take what ever measures to keep them in buisiness and still make money.

It would be nice to have your bandwidth transfer allocated per the following equation.

Bandwidth Allowed = speed cap multiplied by 24 hours/day for thirty days in the month.

If your bandwidth usage allowed equalled the amount of data you could aquire or send in a 24 hour period, then the limit wouldn't be a hassle at all, unless you happend to be a speed limit uncapper of your modem.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Matrf
08-02-02, 10:24 PM
Its not about spped cap , but bandwhit cap

bandwhit is not speed .


I got a great speed, 4,5 / 640


But my bandwhit is 10/10

messybrain
08-02-02, 11:10 PM
bandwidth, not "bandwhit" .. sorry, it had to be said. :P

Matrf
08-02-02, 11:39 PM
thanks , i always like that others correct my very POOR english . This help me.

jumpingrat
08-02-02, 11:59 PM
I don't have a set limit on my bandwidth usage other than a clause in my provider agreement stating that I can't do "excessive" file transfering.

I wont be suprised if more providers start to impose set limits on usage. For every GB that you send up or down, the provider has to pay a fee to the local line owner as well as the owner of the backbone that your connected to. If they are paying more out than is coming in then...well no provider.

As DaveM said the huge growth of warez and mp3 p2p networks has sort of put the providers into a corner bandwidth wise and now everyone feels the pinch.

Ok I've had my say and my Adelphia is actually working tonight :) .. shhh! don't tell them.:)

YARDofSTUF
08-03-02, 09:16 PM
Bandwith limits will affect almost anyone who is suck with them. I hope attbi doesnt go that way, anyone who views pictures or reads forums, and all that daily would be affected by this stupid crap. its the lastest way to de-evolve the internet


bandwith is costly, because highspeed conections use to be jsu tfor business and such. now thats its more a home user thing the price needs to come down to get more ppl on it, but the companies giving att and other ISPs would also have to lower their price too, adn all this wont happen until more ppl sign up. see a loop? ya is sucks.

Matrf
08-04-02, 12:20 AM
The limits is to small to me , and i don't donwload warez or such things even mp3 since i have 15 years old...

noaht1980
08-04-02, 02:48 AM
if you dont download any warez or illegal software,games then why are you so worried about it

regular downloads of real free software you probably will never download 10 GB in one month

Matrf
08-04-02, 11:28 AM
Its maybe becuase i have lost my job and i have nothings do to exept go on internet , and i blow up the limit very easy.


I have cacul that 10gig is like using 2% the time of the monht at the full speed of the connection.

SkiLLtoN
08-05-02, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by noaht1980
if you dont download any warez or illegal software,games then why are you so worried about it

regular downloads of real free software you probably will never download 10 GB in one month

its easy to go over just by watching movie trailers, listening to online radio, watching a video stream, downloading a linux distro,
exchaning videos and pictures with friends and family, etc...

Old Fart
08-05-02, 10:42 AM
Yes, ISPs pay a lot for bandwidth. Bandwidth and salary are our 2 overwhelming expenses. To support my customers costs me at minimum $20,000.00 per month.

Honestly, with the charges associated with providing DSL to my customers, I would make more money per customer selling them a dialup account.

The folks who espouse a "free" internet apparently don't understand economics.