I think I have a bad folding wu

[Suzie]

Just got a new wu about an hour ago and it isn't doing anything, hasn't finished any frames. It show's it's a .6 unit for points, so it should be at like 8 or 10 frames by now. I tried closing and reopening it and still not doing a darn thing?

Not sure what to do with it or how I can dump it and get a new WU.

Still using the old folding program.

Thanks for your time.

:)
S

[Suzie]

Found the answere.

Projects 145-157

We're doing some work to study how protein folding depends on a variety of exernal properties. We're doing the same protein in different projects with differences in solution conditions. The project 146 WUs went out with the .xyz files labeled as 145. This was especially unfortunate since the 146 WUs are 10x longer (and get 10x more credit) than 145.

Thanks
S

[Grimson]

I just got one called P145_1L2Yunf, this sucker is taking 3 times longer than any other one I've ever had.

:eek:

[LT-73]

Crapola ! I've had that one since yesterday and i'm only finishing up #79 Takes about 10-12 minutes to complete on this rig. Haven't checked the other rig, been 3 days.

[Ken]

Man, I had one that took 1/2 hour each on my 600 Athlon! 50 hours to complete it for .6 points! :eek: Oh well!

Thanks for the info, I will watch for another! :)

[LukeMan]

I can beat that! On the P3 550 weakest box I got running

Time per Frame:51.32 minutes
Time per W/U: 85.53 hours!

p146_1L2Yunf Worth 6 points

Oh well.

[Grimson]

well it's only taking 15 min. to finish a frame

[Suzie]

Ah man.... got it again, takes like 58 min a frame. I really have to upgrade soon.

[Encnuk]

On my Pentium 200, a 6 pointer takes 2:30 hours per frame and thus would take 250 horus to complete. I turned my box off. No point in taking over 10 days for 1 fold.

[Ken]

Originally posted by Encnuk
On my Pentium 200, a 6 pointer takes 2:30 hours per frame and thus would take 250 horus to complete. I turned my box off. No point in taking over 10 days for 1 fold.

You don't have to turn it off, just get a different protein... ;)

We have some members using the same machine, not all proteins are the same and work time varies. Every little bit helps! :)

[Grimson]

I've gained 6 spots in 2 days, look out here I come.

:D

[Suzie]

Originally posted by Stu_Grimson
I've gained 6 spots in 2 days, look out here I come.

:D

Oh sure rub it in...:p :D

I've lost 3 spots in 2 days. I don't like the new program, I show 3 finished wu's that I can't seem to send?

[Encnuk]

Is there an easy way to get a different protein?

Considering the first thing the client does is "Benchmarking" when you run it, you would think the thing is smart enough to only ask for proteins that it can fold in a reasonable timeframe.

Maybe I can consult to these guys and give them some usefull ideas.

[LukeMan]

Unfortunately, there is no "clear bad WU" option in F@H like G@H had. To clear a WU you need to delete the work folder and queue.dat file within your F@H directory. Restart and it should d/l new WU.

That "benchmarking" is really bogus. Yes, it is "supposed" to determine what WU get downloaded, but my weakest box seems to get the biggest and slowest WU's.

Suzie, do you still have finished work you can't send? I haven't seen anything regarding a send problem except where the server is down and it should tell you than. Can you show us what messages you are getting when it trys to send?

[ScottE]

Originally posted by LukeMan
Unfortunately, there is no "clear bad WU" option in F@H like G@H had. To clear a WU you need to delete the work folder and queue.dat file within your F@H directory. Restart and it should d/l new WU.

That "benchmarking" is really bogus. Yes, it is "supposed" to determine what WU get downloaded, but my weakest box seems to get the biggest and slowest WU's.

Suzie, do you still have finished work you can't send? I haven't seen anything regarding a send problem except where the server is down and it should tell you than. Can you show us what messages you are getting when it trys to send?

There actually is a command line switch that you can use to delete bad workunits. Not as straight forward as the G@H one, but it's there.

-delete x Delete item #x from work queue. This option should only be used if there is a serious error with the current unit that the client does not automatically recover from (e.g. crash-inducing). This should not normally happen, and if it does we would be grateful if you could send us the FAHlog.txt file from the
unit that causes the error.

Found
here (http://folding.stanford.edu/console-userguide.txt)

And I also posted about the switches here (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84556)

[LukeMan]

I stand corrected. I do remember that post. Was very early here when I posted and I did check a couple places.

My bad :nod:

[Encnuk]

Having to do manual intervention is a bit of a problem though. I need the program to detect that a WU that is going to take my computer 10 days is a bad WU, and thus just delete it and ask for new ones, until it gets one that it can complete in a reasonable timeframe.

But I assume that sort of thing would also not be appreciated by F@H, that they potentially assign me 400 WU's in a row which I all decide are too hard and keep deleting untill I get a smaller one.

I also have no real interest having to look how the folding is going. It is supposed to run in the background unattended, and gets a look in once a week. I think I better leave the old box off.

[Ken]

Originally posted by Encnuk
Having to do manual intervention is a bit of a problem though. I need the program to detect that a WU that is going to take my computer 10 days is a bad WU, and thus just delete it and ask for new ones, until it gets one that it can complete in a reasonable timeframe.

But I assume that sort of thing would also not be appreciated by F@H, that they potentially assign me 400 WU's in a row which I all decide are too hard and keep deleting untill I get a smaller one.

I also have no real interest having to look how the folding is going. It is supposed to run in the background unattended, and gets a look in once a week. I think I better leave the old box off.
You could always let it Genome... ;) I think someone even uses a 166 still Genoming!

[ScottE]

Originally posted by Ken

You could always let it Genome... ;) I think someone even uses a 166 still Genoming!

Yep that's me. It still worked, and it was just collecting dust. So I pulled it out turned it on and set up G@H on it. It's too slow to run folding, but it runs genome like a champ. Takes about 2.5 days to complete a WU.

[Suzie]

Originally posted by LukeMan


Suzie, do you still have finished work you can't send? I haven't seen anything regarding a send problem except where the server is down and it should tell you than. Can you show us what messages you are getting when it trys to send?

I tried to find a way to send them and nothing seemed to work. I wasn't even getting a message when they wouldn't send, it just wouldn't send them. Also it wouldn't pick up on what was in queue, it would leave the unit unfinished and start another. I was having problems since downloading the new console version, so I just dumped everything, both versions and downloaded the new version again. I think having both versions present was the problem, everything seems to be fine now.

Thanks for your help:)

[Ken]

I had confidence in you Suzie!!! :)

[Encnuk]

If buildings were built as well as software, we would all live in caves. We have a lot to thank Microsoft for.