Networking to slow

[Hawkman]

Hello :) I have two computers networked,and need to tweek my registry to allow more b-with to 2nd computer.. any help would b great
Thanks.!

[Lobo]

Ask in Networking Forum please:) :)

[HalfLifer]

He can ask here if he wants.



Hawkman, are you on CABLE, DSL? And what OS's are the comps running?

[Hawkman]

I'm sorry if I'm not in the correct place......kinda new to this forum stuff... :o) ..I ahve a satellite connection ...running on win2k....actually both puters same O.S. ..but 2Nd puter no gets full juice...was told i could tweek registry to allow it more...is it possible.?

[HalfLifer]

You said its got no juice....what do you mean?

Its alot slower than the other? Are the NIC cards the same? Post your results from the analyzer on both comps and let's get started :)

http://forums.speedguide.net:8117/

[Hawkman]

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Mon Mar 11 20:15:18 2002.



SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer

Note: Read the FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Q312461)

TCP options string = 020405b4

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 8760
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 8760
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 350.4 kbps (43.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 140.16 kbps (17.52 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 122 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = OFF

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000




2157189 connections tested since 03.10.2001.
Analyzer version: Beta 0.99

[HalfLifer]

Hey, see where it says your IP? Can you remove that please :)

Just hit edit under your post and voila :)

[HalfLifer]

Then, we're gonna run this:

http://www.speedguide.net/files/sguide_tweak_2k.zip

Download it, and unzip it. Right click on the registry file and click MERGE. DO this on both computers, then reboot for changes to take effect.

[Hawkman]

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Mon Mar 11 20:18:12 2002.



SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer

Note: Read the FAQ if the above is not your IP address.
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; Hotbar 3.0; Q312461; T312461)

TCP options string = 0204056401010402

MTU = 1420
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.

MSS = 1380
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1380, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 16560
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 16560
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
507840 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
253920 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
126960 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
63480 (MSS x 46)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 662.4 kbps (82.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 264.96 kbps (33.12 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 121 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000




2157236 connections tested since 03.10.2001.
Analyzer version: Beta 0.99

[HalfLifer]

Then, we're gonna run this:

http://www.speedguide.net/files/sguide_tweak_2k.zip

Download it, and unzip it. Right click on the registry file and click MERGE. DO this on both computers, then reboot for changes to take effect.


DO THIS ON EACH COMPUTER.

And where you posted your analyzer results, please edit your post out to remove your IP Address at the top. :)

[Hawkman]

My actuall problem is the fact that the 2nd puter never gets more than 10% of the total available download bandwith....this puter is smokin...i can do like 2000kbs on a good morning...then go over to 2nd puter and barely hit 125kbs....with main puter totaly neutral nothing up or down....

[Hawkman]

:) .......it's actually not mine....I have a Dynamic IP....so that is actually to DPC proxy server....Thanks!!.....sorry !! like I said ...Me kind New to this .!!

[HalfLifer]

Originally posted by HalfLifer
Then, we're gonna run this:

http://www.speedguide.net/files/sguide_tweak_2k.zip

Download it, and unzip it. Right click on the registry file and click MERGE. DO this on both computers, then reboot for changes to take effect.


DO THIS ON EACH COMPUTER.

[Hawkman]

Think I should make copy of registry b-4 i do the merge..??..on both puters

[HalfLifer]

I would ;)

[Hawkman]

YIPPEE ........Flood Gates R OPEN!!.....ran the patch as you told me on 2nd puter...BAM ...hit over 500 kbs on first test.!!:) :) :) :)

did not do it on this puter yet....do you think it will improve the upload speed on this puter if i install it on here.???...my downloads now r fast enuff...I CRAVE upload speed..!!

[HalfLifer]

;)


Now, is it 2 way satelite or 1 way?

[Hawkman]

I have the 2-way from Hughes Networks...."Direcpc" ..... I download and upload thru the satelite dish....[or the trash can lid]
as I call it..!!..LOL ...seems like they got some way to LIMIT the uploads...."example".......I can have three files uploding @ 10 kbs
but NEVER any one file faster than 3kbs....seeems like some kinda CAP on the amout of B-width per file or request...Hmmmm
they always wanna SLOW us down..!! Any Ideas..?? You did good so far ..! Thank You..!! ... :) :) ..

[Lobo]

Take analyzer again and see if MTU is right now=1500


MTU = 1420 :)

[Hawkman]

This is the test from # 2 puter ....we did test twice....to be sure

TCP options string = 020405640101010101010402

MTU = 1420
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.

MSS = 1380
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1380, which is equal to MSS.
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 32000
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 32000
For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
507840 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 8)
253920 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 4)
126960 (MSS x 46 * scale factor of 2)
63480 (MSS x 46)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 1280 kbps (160 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 512 kbps (64 KBytes/s) @ 500ms

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 57 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

[HalfLifer]

This will improve your settings and give you that upload boost. Works great, I suggest you try :)

http://www.cyberwizardpit.com/cybertweaks/trialwares/Cyber2000.exe

[Lobo]

Won't fix MTU

[HalfLifer]

Originally posted by Lobo
Won't fix MTU

Yes it does.

[Lobo]

Bet, our patch did not, I doubt that mess over there will

[HalfLifer]

Our Win2k patch doesnt change MTU, Lobo.

http://www.cyberwizardpit.com/cybertweaks/trialwares/Cyber2000.exe

[Lobo]

The new Optimizer that works fine does:)

[Lobo]

Please post analyzer results:) :)

[Hawkman]

That did the trick...!! did not seem to give MORE upload band with...But sure did take the limits of of any one file.....Actually I have to say that it does seem like the OVERALL performace has been improved also....seems faster to me

This is test from main puter after the exe application......

TCP options string = 020405b4

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 8760
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 8760
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 350.4 kbps (43.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 140.16 kbps (17.52 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 122 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = OFF

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

[Hawkman]

Gotta tell you guys ....sure did help me out tonite...I will definitely pass the word along about your site...and I will be back.....

Question.....what is the little "Optimizer" program about.??:) :)

[HalfLifer]

I'm gonna have you run the Optimizer next. Something went wack, as the patch I gave you last should have set you at an RWIN of 373360.

[Hawkman]

You lost me now......it did what i wanted it to do and that was take the limits of of any one file.....now i can upload at around 10 to 12 with one file instead of just 3 or 4 like b-4 ...it does DRAIN away the resorces from 2nd puter and my pages load slower ..but that is to be expected...i did not think it would give MORE band width ....just take that limits off any one transfer...and that has seemed to have worked....but I'm all ears for your advice...THNX

"Hawkman"

[HalfLifer]

How fast is the second computer? It was a NIC buffer tweak for 500mhz and 128MB Ram +. Normal tweaks dont affect system performance in any way however. If its acting up, I'd uninstall it.

[Hawkman]

Secound puter is now equal to the main one... " Acting up " in what ways do you mean ..seems ok to me...no BLUE screen or stuff like that....it did mess up the browser to were I had to reset the settings in connections..but seems ok

[Hawkman]

Hello "HalfLifer"...........just a note to let ya know......as i used the puter more I noticed that althought one single file DID actually go faster up ....it seemed to MASIVELY drain away the B-with to the point that at 'peek' times it would not load a page..[off peek seemed ok].....so I uninstalled the program you sent URL for,,,all seems to have gone back to normal now....with that program installed it also seemed that it would BURST realy quick @ first then gradeully taper off...so ...i am back to the origional tweek we preformed...I will do another anylizer and post results ..
- the IP ...LOL.......... :)

Thanks

"Hawkman"

[Hawkman]

..................Here is the test from #1 [main] computer.......

TCP options string = 020405b4

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 8760
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 8760
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 350.4 kbps (43.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 140.16 kbps (17.52 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 122 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = OFF

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

[Hawkman]

Question..??

What is the RWIN value..??.....and how would I go about changing it as it says in the test.??

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 350.4 kbps (43.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 140.16 kbps (17.52 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.

[Lobo]

One of their first thing you learn about speed patches is they do not go on top of each other, our patch, put in TcpMaxDupAcks where as the one you installed afterwards did not, so you had our setting of TcpMacDupAcks with other patch, if I were you I would download the New Optimizer to your desktop, and enter a custom Tcp Recieve Window of 405880, 417560, 420480 and see how that works, if not good, go back to optimal settings which will enter same RWIN 256960 as you have now:



Download SG Optimizer to your desktop, select connection type at top, select custom settings in middle, Select adapter you are using, click on apply changes at very bottom,and REBOOT .
If you wish to enter custom TCP recieve window select custom settings at bottom, enter what you wish, click on apply changes at bottom and REBOOT.
If using Cablenuts adjuster too, you must first bring up adjuster, click on delete Cablenut Tweaks at bottom and reboot, then download and install optimizer.


Optimizer in my signature

Do your speed tests here after you turn off all running programs http://www.speakeasy.net/main.php?page=sup_pops , select site nearest to you, turn everything off thats running, Check Taskbar, 1 browser, clear cache, If you are from over seas select from here: http://www.testmyspeed.com/internationalspeedtests.htm


Even though it is not the nearest the Dallas test is pretty quick


BEFORE SPEEDTEST

1. At top of IE, click on Tools, internet options, click on delete files and click on offline files (It's safe), click on clear history, yes
2.) Go to Start button, programs, accessories, system tools, disk cleanup, Click OK (Safe)
3.) Run scandisk (Short version)
4.) Scandisk on XP?
Click on My Computer, select Drive that XP is on, RIGHT click on BLANK place, select properties, then tools at top tab, click check now, check box automattically fix system errors, click start,
then test. Turn all running programs off. Reboot computer so you have all your RAM
:)

[MajinVegeta]

lobo vs halflifer lol
thats what i seem to notice, half lifer always dissagrees and lobo comes back lol, i'm with lobo:p hehehe
nah just jokin it jus tlooks like u 2 r in compitition

[Lobo]

I just installed Tiny Personnal Firewall in XP to go along with the one that comes with XP, so now I have 2, maybe I can sweepy better, lol, hehe:) :)

[MajinVegeta]

yer i wanna get another one coz some programs windows xp blocks and i have to go thro all this crap to find out what ip and port these programs r using to give it access:mad:
i wanna get norton firewall 2002 but to god damn expensive

[Lobo]

Norton to slow for me, slows down puter, try Zone alarm, the free one :)


http://www.zonealarm.com/

[Hawkman]

KO....me will try you're advice... :) Thanks...!! doing it now.

I'm runnin win2k Pro ...with satellite service from direcpc.. "FYI"

Belive me if I could get cable I would..I have NO other choice.:(

Thanks "lobo" ... :D

"Hawkman"

[Lobo]

You do not have to uninstall SG's patches:)

[Hawkman]

Here Are The Latest Results using the optimizer.....with this value...256960....i got the fastest download speed...approximately 1800 kbs ...That SMOKES for me..!! :D THNX..!!

Now ....any ideas how to change to upload speed gradually like I'm able to with the download speed.??...current up speed is sometimes LESS than 30kbs... :( .. ...the other program was just to MUCH ...tests come back high but...it seemed to lose my connection VERY OFTEN like that..&..files started out good....but soon dropped into the .50 kbs range...:( :(
and that no good...just wondering what I could tap from you're brian... LOL .!!.. :D ..any ideas.??

By the way....Kewl little item this Optimizer Thingy .!! Good Job.!

"Hawkman"

TCP options string = 020405b4

MTU = 1500
MTU is fully optimized for broadband.

MSS = 1460
Maximum useful data in each packet = 1460, which is equal to MSS.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 8760
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 8760
RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
513920 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
256960 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
128480 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
64240 (MSS x 44)

bandwidth * delay product:
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 350.4 kbps (43.8 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 140.16 kbps (17.52 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.

MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON

Time to live left = 122 hops
TTL value is ok.

Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF

Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = OFF

IP type of service field (RFC1349)= 00000000

[Lobo]

Your test shows default RWIN, have you rebooted, run Optmizer again and click on apply changes:)

[Hawkman]

Oh Yes...Numerous time.....i was able to slow it as far down as 600 kbs....with the 600 number on the result page....but still the BEST speed was with this number I currently have now....it was not as fast as it is now b-4 i statred all this....and the secound puter smokes just like this one does...my speed at this time of day BARELY ever reached 1000 kbs....so we on rite track.!! :):p :)

Just wish i could get just a bit more UP power,,,,it currently hangs at 30 kbs ...and is CAPPED at that

[Lobo]

I don't know how to get that up, call ISP, I know, pack picnic lunch:)

[Hawkman]

LOL..........!! ..A picnic lunch....Shhhheeeeees .. With Direcpc....I better pack like I'm going CAMPING for a couple weeks...!! Thanks For The Help .!!..... :)