@home Question

[BoGGy]

whats excite@home is that the host, well im confussed

there is:
rogers@home
cox@home
shaw@home
comcast@home
atnt
etc...

[BoGGy]

so excite@home controls everything?

[Amro]

excite@home owns the lines, equipments, etc..

charter, shaw, comcast, cox, att, rogers, intermedia, etc.. they all lease from excite. they didn't pay their bills, so excite@home went under.. and now excite@home wants payback..so they're shutting their service. ...att is tryin to get @home for 307mil, which is way SUB the real value....so we're all screwed

Amro

[BoGGy]

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[legalmind]

"they didn't pay their bills"
Not correct.

[Amro]

Originally posted by legalmind
"they didn't pay their bills"
Not correct.

it's close enough. they payed too little


http://www.dotcomscoop.com/athm.html

[Indy]

Originally posted by Amro


it's close enough. they payed too little


http://www.dotcomscoop.com/athm.html

They pay too little? Companies pay @home $12 per customer right now to use the @home service and @home wants that bumped up to $20. @Home is the company that squandered all of it's assets...like when they bought excite for billions of dollars...If any outside company is to be blamed for @homes woes, it's AT&T...

[legalmind]

Been paying them $20.00 per month for some time.
@home is a good model on how NOT to run a company.
They signed the contract stating how much to charge to the cable companies. I am sure the cable companies did not hold a gun to their head.
I am no big lover of cable companies, but please place the blame where it should be.
Let the SOBs shut down. Their network will be worth zero!
I can go 56k for a while, I will not die.
@home is trying to black mail AT&T to up the buying price. It may back fire right in their face. Trying to black mail the cable companies to pay even more and that = you and I.

[Amro]

well whatever the case, i want my @home service back, even if i do have to pay the 8 dollars more myself, this charter pipeline is horrible.

Amro

[Indy]

Originally posted by legalmind
Been paying them $20.00 per month for some time.
@home is a good model on how NOT to run a company.
They signed the contract stating how much to charge to the cable companies. I am sure the cable companies did not hold a gun to their head.
I am no big lover of cable companies, but please place the blame where it should be.
Let the SOBs shut down. Their network will be worth zero!
I can go 56k for a while, I will not die.
@home is trying to black mail AT&T to up the buying price. It may back fire right in their face. Trying to black mail the cable companies to pay even more and that = you and I.

That's exactly it...@home is upset about the fact that they are only being offered $307 million for their company by AT&T and wanted to up the ante...by forcing the shutdown, all they are doing is devaluing themselves, especially as the cable companies roll out their own managed networks...

[Brianchurch]

AMRO all the cable companies you stated as not paying their bills and later stated they were not paying enough is B.S. Every cable company you listed had a contract before @home ever merged with excite. @Home knew how much profit it was making per subscriber before the merger. Bottom line @Home bought a 6 billion dollar paper tiger. Please remember the following.

NEW YORK, NY, January 19, 1999 -- @Home Network and Excite, Inc. today announced that the companies have signed a definitive merger agreement for an all-stock transaction valued at approximately $6.7 billion at the time of the announcement. The combined organizations aim to accelerate broadband deployment and adoption by combining @Home's broadband technology platform, robust Internet backbone, and cable distribution agreements representing nearly 60 million homes worldwide, with Excite's award-winning Web portal and extensive narrowband reach. Excite and @Home will deliver to consumers the most personalized, open Internet services at any speed, any time, and on any device they choose.

We the cable modem users should sit back, let excite@home go under. The cable companies would have us back up in no time without adding the cost of an excite@home bailout added to our cable bill.

[legalmind]

Originally posted by Brianchurch
AMRO all the cable companies you stated as not paying their bills and later stated they were not paying enough is B.S. Every cable company you listed had a contract before @home ever merged with excite. @Home knew how much profit it was making per subscriber before the merger. Bottom line @Home bought a 6 billion dollar paper tiger. Please remember the following.

NEW YORK, NY, January 19, 1999 -- @Home Network and Excite, Inc. today announced that the companies have signed a definitive merger agreement for an all-stock transaction valued at approximately $6.7 billion at the time of the announcement. The combined organizations aim to accelerate broadband deployment and adoption by combining @Home's broadband technology platform, robust Internet backbone, and cable distribution agreements representing nearly 60 million homes worldwide, with Excite's award-winning Web portal and extensive narrowband reach. Excite and @Home will deliver to consumers the most personalized, open Internet services at any speed, any time, and on any device they choose.

We the cable modem users should sit back, let excite@home go under. The cable companies would have us back up in no time without adding the cost of an excite@home bailout added to our cable bill.

Amen!

[Indy]

Originally posted by Brianchurch
We the cable modem users should sit back, let excite@home go under. The cable companies would have us back up in no time without adding the cost of an excite@home bailout added to our cable bill.

@Home is shooting itself in the foot if it thinks shutting down its network will make its assets more valuable to the cable companies...if anything, it will devalue it even more than it already is...

[Amro]

again, sorry if i read that article wrong, i had some interesting sources tho guys.. plus you're talking bout cable co's backing us up..maybe yours..yea charter got me up, but now i pay the same money for BS SLOW, laggy service that's up and down.

Amro

[Amro]

and another thing.. what you said maybe true bout @home asking too much, but let me throw my 2c in about it, @home always gave me good service, at least their techs (heh needed em to get comp name once) knew what an ip addy was..and i had a GOOD download speed with them.. for 50 bucks.. fine. but when charter takes over down here instead of working a deal like some of the others..throws in their bull--------------$ h It pipeline, charges the same 50 bucks for laggy, dialup-speed @ loading websites, service w/ a massive, rediculous download cap at me... THAT pisses me off. @home gave me a good connection for cheap.. yea maybe too cheap and maybe that's why they went.. and maybe i'm spoiled by it since pipes are so expensive, but WHY? why cap the pipe download if not everyone is using it all the time anyway, and (maybe i'm wrong, but from a friend who worked for @home..maybe charter is different, they don't pay per gig on BW, it's just a monthly line fee) it will not cost them extra to leave us uncapped, it's BULL.. at least @home gave me sub 80 pings, 3mbit+ service, quick page loads, no packet loss, and an always on (rarely down) connection.. charter's pipeline here has proven to be just the opposite.. so maybe you guys had crappy @Home and great whatever it is now, but for me, charter is a living hell, i accidently stumbled on one tech there @ charter by email who personally emailed me and answered the q's i had (e.g. how the new billing would be, since their customer service was a joke.. etc..).. so charter has been hell except for that one person, and @home was a heaven connection. that's my view, maybe because of my satisfaction w/ @home.. who knows.. i just know that now, i'm forced to pay for subpar service, but it's all i can go w/ cause it's either this or 26,400 fun fun fun and i can't really share that w/ out hoops and bounds. that's just my 2c, i'm pissed about it because i miss my old service..and that's why i think @home was good, and the cable cos (or at least charter, maybe not the rest.. i don't have their service) suck.

Amro


edit: and something else, you were talkin bout @Home wanting to up the selling price, it's called SMART. their equipment alone is worth more than that, and they have people they owe money (if i member right it's bond holders).. so guess what? they are SMART, from a business stand point, to up the selling cost..

[Indy]

Originally posted by Amro
edit: and something else, you were talkin bout @Home wanting to up the selling price, it's called SMART. their equipment alone is worth more than that, and they have people they owe money (if i member right it's bond holders).. so guess what? they are SMART, from a business stand point, to up the selling cost..

Nothing against a company that wants to get more money out of the deal...it's the American way. But, if these cable companies start up their own managed networks and cast off @home (much in the manner that AT&T is doing right now), it makes @home less viable to a potential buyer. Why would someone want to buy the company when no cable mso's are using it?

Just my $.02 :)

[legalmind]

I cannot compare as I am still on @home. I will say I love there service and speed. They always corrected any problem I had while on the phone with me.
But, if Cox thinks I will pay the same price for less, think again.
Maybe Sprint will rethink offering their wireless service again.
I guess these cable companies will tell us we need new modems to work on their system? I just see big changes coming for users and they are not good. Charges for things we use to do for free.

[Amro]

Originally posted by Indy


Nothing against a company that wants to get more money out of the deal...it's the American way. But, if these cable companies start up their own managed networks and cast off @home (much in the manner that AT&T is doing right now), it makes @home less viable to a potential buyer. Why would someone want to buy the company when no cable mso's are using it?

Just my $.02 :)


yea, you're right there and i'll give you that.


legal: i feel the same way, look at the other posts. my connection is complete crap. sites load like dialup (NO EXAGERATION), it freezes...e.g. packet loss... crappy pings..etc.. not to mention the slower downloads.. that's why i like @home.. they WORKED. this doesn't and i'm paying the same 50 bucks.. what's worse? no dsl here, and if it were, bell south charges 200 bucks for a modem (ethernet) otherwise it's 75 for usb.. so i'd STILL be screwed, and slower than @Home, PLUS it'd be 60 i think when all's said and done.. LAME LAME LAME.. that's why i'm bitter.. just feel lucky to still have your @home.. everyone gripes about them, but guess what, they're the best out there (other than OOL) for the majority of us.

Amro

[thechemgeek]

for those of you complaining about your new speeds on the AT&T Broadband service, atleast you have an internet connection. Many of us still do not. (I'm reading posts at work. shhhh :) ) settle down beavis, give them a chance to get things RUNNING first. i don't know a whole lot about how to hookup 850,000 customers, but i can't image it's going to happen all that quick. i'd give them a week to get me up and going. a few weeks to a month to optimize their system, perhaps a little longer.

for those of you complaining about price, well, i'll agree with you there. also, since Excite@Home is out of the picture, shouldn't AT&T be lowering their prices? they wouldn't have to pay them anymore. heh, that would make too much sense. won't happen.

[Amro]

Originally posted by thechemgeek
for those of you complaining about your new speeds on the AT&T Broadband service, atleast you have an internet connection. Many of us still do not. (I'm reading posts at work. shhhh :) ) settle down beavis, give them a chance to get things RUNNING first. i don't know a whole lot about how to hookup 850,000 customers, but i can't image it's going to happen all that quick. i'd give them a week to get me up and going. a few weeks to a month to optimize their system, perhaps a little longer.

for those of you complaining about price, well, i'll agree with you there. also, since Excite@Home is out of the picture, shouldn't AT&T be lowering their prices? they wouldn't have to pay them anymore. heh, that would make too much sense. won't happen.


You're right, I do have a connection, it's a 50 dollar, always on dialup connection. :D

Amro

[Indy]

Originally posted by thechemgeek
also, since Excite@Home is out of the picture, shouldn't AT&T be lowering their prices? they wouldn't have to pay them anymore. heh, that would make too much sense. won't happen.

You kidding? ;) Lowering prices would mean not reaping the windfall of not having to pay @home it's user charges...like you said, won't happen:p

[thechemgeek]

Originally posted by Amro



You're right, I do have a connection, it's a 50 dollar, always on dialup connection. :D

Amro

ah, yes, but it is on. jk.

although, you'd be surprised at the amount of stuff i got done this weekend since i was offline. also, i dusted off a couple books. amazing. heh.

no CS, UT or AOE makes Homer go crazy.

crazy like a fox.

[Amro]

i know the feeling. :(

Amro

P.S. it is on, bairly, but it's on...