More Pcs On My Network Of What I Have

[PToN]

i have on my network protocols netbeui QoS tcp/ip ipx and netbios of course i also have the clients ok the thing is that i decided that there were too much protocols and i decided to take out the netbeui when i did i went to see if can be able to share with out it and when i opended computers near me i saw 3 pcs that are not on my network because i only have to

can anyone tell me what is that

hacked??? or it was just lucky that there is some people with my same workgruop ??

oh i cannot get into those pcs because it says network path not found here is the picture

well i dont know how to put a picture but if anyone tell me i ll put so you can see it

[master7]

Put back on Netbeui - it is the best. If your ISP dosen't require it - take out TCP/IP and IPX/SPX - they're both slow as molasses. If you play some old games on your network - then maybe you keep IPX/SPX - but hopefully take out TCP/IP.

Concering your "hacking" question - If you have Windows XP or ME, you have what is called "Favoriting."
This saves old drives that were once shared on your network. Example: MINE

I just went to a LAN party. In my Network Places - I see right now 24 drives. Of course - I can't access them - but ME just saves the icons because I ONCE used them.

This is probably what is happening with you.

[MagicMikey]

Hmmm, I heard of this problem a long long time ago but not recently, that's really odd...

For the pciture, it msut be uploaded to a Web server then click on the 'IMG' button and fill out the form ;)

[greEd]

Put back on Netbeui - it is the best. If your ISP dosen't require it - take out TCP/IP and IPX/SPX - they're both slow as molasses. If you play some old games on your network - then maybe you keep IPX/SPX - but hopefully take out TCP/IP

I'm confused .... do you mean unbind IPX/SPX TCP/IP from the network adapter while playing LAN games or get rid of TCP/IP and IPX/SPX completely? I don't understand how your ISP can govern the protocols on your LAN?

.....I don't get what your saying. Not flaming just confused. :D

greEd

[master7]

No insult taken :) .
Some broadband ISPs require TCP/IP, which is pretty dumb. If they don't, just COMPLETELY take off TCP/IP.

IPX/SPX is also to be taken off, since it is a very slow protocal, and not many games require it anymore.

Netbeui is just the best thing since sliced bread. If you have any questions, please ask.

[greEd]

hmmm .....
I believe netbeui is used for small internetworks and is non-routable. If you want to connect to any type of WAN connection you are gonna need either TCP/IP or IPX/SPx as these are WAN protocols, I believe the only protocol developed that is similar to netbeui is appletalk which is used for mac compatibility. Appletalk however is routable, netbeui is not.
So I would think ALL isp's have no choice but to use use tcp/ip as the WAN protocol as this is the industry standard and most efficient all around protocol to date. So in order to play any game over the internet you are gonna have to have tcp.ip in your protocol stack .... I do believe you can route netbeui over tcp/ip but again you would have to have tcp/ip in your stack.

If you have figured out a way to route netbeui without a WAN protocol I would love to know how you did this.

regards,
greEd

[cyberskye]

Greed - it's a brand new protocol developed by MS called NSP (NoSuchProtocol). Send me you credit card number and I will provide a copy ;)

[greEd]

:rotfl:
damn, I was hoping he had figured out how to route a non-routable protocol, that would have gotten my attention, and most security minded's attention. Oh well. :D

regards,
greEd

[Thorazine]

Let me understand this. Your (master7) suggesting to PTon that he should remove TCP/IP in favor of NetBEUI? Why would anyone suggest to use NetBEUI as the only protocol in a network? NetBEUI is (much like AppleTalk) chatty and non-routable(<-as others have clearly stated before me). The ONLY reason to even consider using NetBEUI on a home network is if your network is peer-to-peer and your turned-on by seeing the little icons in Network Neighborhood (Or My Network Places as it were). If you have two PC's on a network you could eliminate NetBEUI and contact the other PC via the command line. (net use, net view, etc.) Or set-up mapped drives between the two.

As far as seeing other machines in the neighborhood, I would suspect two possible causes.

1) One you've installed and reinstalled PCs on your network with different NetBIOS names. If that's the case then 45mins or so later when everyone broadcasts their exsistance and the master browser updates its browse list, these mystery computers will no longer show-up in Network Neighborhood.

2) I don't know how ISP's (especially Cable service providers) are set-up in terms of downstream hardware from the end node. But if they are using a hub or a misconfigured switch, then you will see the NetBIOS broadcasts from other subscribers on your node. This could very well be the problem.

And as far as IPX/SPX goes. If your not working with Novell, Classic Quake (Or any old games that only support IPX/SPX) or any software that requires that protocol. Dump it. There is no reason to have unused protocols bound to your adpaters. It slows things down.

Oh and if your running your home computers in a Client/Server type environment. NetBEUI shouldn't even be considered. Either run WINS in an NT4.0 environment or DNS if you have 2000 server(s).

[RoundEye]

WinXP Pro doesn't even have netbeui.

[MAmuT]

YOU ARE WRONG WINDOWS XP DOES HAVE NETBEUI THE ONLY THING IS THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY MICROSOFT BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE CD YOU LL FINDE IT THAST HOW I INSTALL IT

do not take this at the bad way but if you are not sure do not post an anwser like that one PLZ i repeat do not take it at the bad way

[RoundEye]

Legacy networking components
Support for the following legacy protocols is discontinued in Windows XP:

NetBEUI, a non-routable protocol
DLC, a non-routable protocol
AppleTalk, a protocol used with Apple computers
These protocols are replaced by equivalent functionality in the TCP/IP protocol suite


This is all I could find.

So instead of just telling me I'm wrong. Why don't you tell me how to install netbeui in Windows XP?

[MAmuT]

here look

there is a folder named NETBEUI

E:\VALUEADD\MSFT\NET

[RoundEye]

Good find :)

[cyberskye]

RoundEye - now you can ditch TCP/IP altogether (per Master7)!