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iceman3233
02-25-01, 10:46 PM
Right now I have win2k on one machine which acts as internet server which then goes through a hub to a winme machine. The win2k machine is all configured for home networking as before winme the other box had win98 and all worked fine. Right now the winme wont be able to access internet at all, aol IM, icq, and webpages don't load. On both machines they can see eachother and have file sharing enabled. They both are same workgroup. Why won't winme get internet from a win2k machine?
Originally posted by iceman3233:
Right now I have win2k on one machine which acts as internet server which then goes through a hub to a winme machine. The win2k machine is all configured for home networking as before winme the other box had win98 and all worked fine. Right now the winme wont be able to access internet at all, aol IM, icq, and webpages don't load. On both machines they can see eachother and have file sharing enabled. They both are same workgroup. Why won't winme get internet from a win2k machine?
ICE... are you running any type of internet sharing software such as ICS or other similar type program? and you are using 2 NIC's right - 1 for the lan and one for your ISP connection and using TCP/IP for the net protocal?
Greg
Yeah, you need to convert one of your existing systems into a "server"--add a 2nd NIC and use NAT or proxy software. Or, you can purchase a router.
DiskDoc
02-26-01, 04:05 PM
I had the same problem except mine was between win2k pro and win 98se. Make sure you have everythign set up correctly with the necessary adapters and protocols. Then try downloading the newer version of Sygate Home Networking software from sygate.com. Set one comp as the 'server' and the other one as the 'client'. Then make sure the server is turned on and is sharing the net connection :D
iceman3233
02-26-01, 04:13 PM
Ya I got a server machine with 2 net cards in it. One goes to cable modem and one goes to hub. I used win2k's built in ICS and had it working with win98 but now I cant seam to get it to work with winme.
Originally posted by iceman3233:
Ya I got a server machine with 2 net cards in it. One goes to cable modem and one goes to hub. I used win2k's built in ICS and had it working with win98 but now I cant seam to get it to work with winme.Run the WinME Networking Wizard.
DiskDoc
02-26-01, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by iceman3233:
Ya I got a server machine with 2 net cards in it. One goes to cable modem and one goes to hub. I used win2k's built in ICS and had it working with win98 but now I cant seam to get it to work with winme.
I see what your saying but why have 2 NICs in the server machine? You can have a network up and going with 2 NICs. Connect your cable modem to the 'uplink' port in the switch/hub, then connect the server and the client to the switch/hub.
[ 02-26-2001: Message edited by: DiskDoc ]
Originally posted by DiskDoc:
I see what your saying but why have 2 NICs in the server machine? You can have a network up and going with 2 NICs. Connect your cable modem to the 'uplink' port in the switch/hub, then connect the server and the client to the switch/hub.He won't be able to share the connection that way unless he has two IPs form his provider.
[ 02-26-2001: Message edited by: glc1 ]
DiskDoc
02-26-01, 04:30 PM
glc1, actually he will becasue I'm doing it that way and it's working for me :D It's been working for me. Shared dial-up connection that way and now i'm sharing cable connection :D
Originally posted by DiskDoc:
glc1, actually he will becasue I'm doing it that way and it's working for me :D It's been working for me. Shared dial-up connection that way and now i'm sharing cable connection :DMy appologies, you're right. But in order to do so, one must use Sygate and their "OneNIC" technology. Any other NAT or proxy software requires two NICs in the server.
DiskDoc
02-26-01, 05:55 PM
:p
Heartless
02-26-01, 06:06 PM
I have the same setup ICEman with WIN ME running ICS and win 2K clients 2 of them to be specific. WIN98 and WINME both have to have ICS installed in the network properties but WIN 2k will share automaticly. When i first set it up it worked great but when i took out my WIN 98 uninstallation information it died on me. What i had to do to fix it was remove ICS as well as the entire TCP/IP stack and rebuilt it ALL then it worked again. That may be worth a Try on that ME machine.
DiskDoc
02-26-01, 06:30 PM
Definately, give that a try and let us know. ;)
iceman3233
02-26-01, 08:26 PM
Great ideas all thanks. Rebuilding TCP/IP stack on the ME machine now. Also my hub is older and I dont think it has an uplink. Could I make a cross over cable and bypass the hub so I get the 100 speed?
iceman3233
02-26-01, 08:40 PM
K all done rebuilding and no go :( nothing can connect on this machine, aol, icq, and IE.
If you don't use the hub, you will definitely need to add a second NIC to the server. If you use a hub w/ an uplink and Sygate, niether PC will need two NICs.
DiskDoc
02-27-01, 08:11 AM
Yea, that's the only way to do without the hub.
Hi, I just went through pretty much what you are describing - it is documented under the Cable Modem section of Speed-Guide. The problem turned out to be that the ICS on the server could not see the client. So I enabled the DNS server under the TCP/IP properties of Dial-Up/Networking using the default gateway address. Obtain the DNS server and default gateway from ipconfig /all on the server machine.
iceman3233
02-27-01, 05:47 PM
Well I can see the client on the server and the server on the client. How do I make it so the server lets the client access internet? Win98 on the client all I had to do was obtain ip automaticaly and I was done. Winme sux grrrrrr!
DiskDoc
02-27-01, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by iceman3233:
Well I can see the client on the server and the server on the client. How do I make it so the server lets the client access internet? Win98 on the client all I had to do was obtain ip automaticaly and I was done. Winme sux grrrrrr!
Not that I want you to get rid of Win ME or anything, but why not just use Win 98 on both machines? I personally don't like Win ME :(
Ok since both computers can see each other, you can probably now set up the net sharing. Have you downloaded any NAT softwares yet? If not, I'd recommend you use Sygate (a simple software that does what you need). Get a copy of Sygate Home Networking software from sygate.com. Then install that on one machine as server and on the other one as client.
*** any of you know why the lights on my switch are always on for computer #1? Even if the comp is off, the lights are on. Comp #2 is working fine, lights come up only when the comp is on.
[ 02-27-2001: Message edited by: DiskDoc ]
iceman3233
02-27-01, 08:46 PM
I have reinstalled 3 machines about 3 times each in the past month. I am really not up to doing it again :)
DiskDoc
02-27-01, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by iceman3233:
I have reinstalled 3 machines about 3 times each in the past month. I am really not up to doing it again :)
So have you tried all that? Is it working now?
:rolleyes:
iceman3233
03-01-01, 07:18 PM
K I installed sygate on the server and all is fine cept when I wana play half-life or any of the mods. It won't connect at all. So I will just build another t-bird and use an old 700 athlon as a server that does nothing but provide internet. Thanks for all your help guys.
Originally posted by iceman3233:
K I installed sygate on the server and all is fine cept when I wana play half-life or any of the mods. It won't connect at all. Sygate has a firewall, so did you forward the proper ports?
iceman3233
03-02-01, 11:37 PM
Nope lol but that is a VERY good idea :) sorry for all the trouble.
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