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~BD~
03-25-09, 04:19 AM
Unruh wrote:

>> I have been led to believe that the BIOS on a motherboad can be
>> attacked/infected but I have no knowledge of how one may check and/or
>> 'clean' same.
>
> Buy a new computer. Anyway, the chances of anyone subv erting the bios and
> leaving the machine bootable is almost nill. Would it be possible?
> Yes.
> It is also possible that President Obama spends four hours each day
> personally going over the transcripts of all the conversations you have had that day
> Yes, it is possible.
>
>> --
>> John
>
>


Newfangled rootkits survive hard disk wiping
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/persistent_bios_rootkits/

HTH
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Dave (~BD~)

John Smith
03-29-09, 01:48 PM
~BD~ wrote:
> Unruh wrote:
>
>>> I have been led to believe that the BIOS on a motherboad can be
>>> attacked/infected but I have no knowledge of how one may check and/or
>>> 'clean' same.
>>
>> Buy a new computer. Anyway, the chances of anyone subv erting the bios
>> and
>> leaving the machine bootable is almost nill. Would it be possible?
>> Yes.
>> It is also possible that President Obama spends four hours each day
>> personally going over the transcripts of all the conversations you
>> have had that day Yes, it is possible.
>>
>>> --
>>> John
>>
>>
>
>
> Newfangled rootkits survive hard disk wiping
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/persistent_bios_rootkits/
>
> HTH
> --
> Dave (~BD~)

Regarding cleaning an encrypted computer hard drive, I've found that
webroot's window washer does a nice job without screwing up any part of
the system or encryption like EE or cyberscrub does. It gets almost all
the same area's as the other software does.

Ari®
03-29-09, 06:27 PM
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:48:51 -0700, John Smith wrote:

>> Newfangled rootkits survive hard disk wiping
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/persistent_bios_rootkits/
>>
>> HTH
>> --
>> Dave (~BD~)
>
> Regarding cleaning an encrypted computer hard drive, I've found that
> webroot's window washer does a nice job without screwing up any part of
> the system or encryption like EE or cyberscrub does. It gets almost all
> the same area's as the other software does.

Could you translate that to citations?
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John Smith
03-29-09, 11:08 PM
~BD~ wrote:
> Unruh wrote:
>
>>> I have been led to believe that the BIOS on a motherboad can be
>>> attacked/infected but I have no knowledge of how one may check and/or
>>> 'clean' same.
>>
>> Buy a new computer. Anyway, the chances of anyone subv erting the bios
>> and
>> leaving the machine bootable is almost nill. Would it be possible?
>> Yes.
>> It is also possible that President Obama spends four hours each day
>> personally going over the transcripts of all the conversations you
>> have had that day Yes, it is possible.
>>
>>> --
>>> John
>>
>>
>
>
> Newfangled rootkits survive hard disk wiping
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/persistent_bios_rootkits/

It seems like these types of kits are more likely designed to monitor
traffic going in and out of a computer or network

>
> HTH
> --
> Dave (~BD~)

~BD~
03-30-09, 02:36 AM
John Smith wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:


>>> I have been led to believe that the BIOS on a motherboad can be
>>> attacked/infected but I have no knowledge of how one may check
>>> and/or 'clean' same.


>> Newfangled rootkits survive hard disk wiping
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/persistent_bios_rootkits/

> It seems like these types of kits are more likely designed to monitor
> traffic going in and out of a computer or network

Maybe so - I have no idea! ;)

The article also refers to "an exploit that hands an attacker unfettered
root access".

Perhaps a silly question - if one connects to another server
deliberately for the purpose of sending and receiving messages in a
newsgroup (making a hole in one's defences?) might this be giving
"unfettered root access" if one is operating with Administrator privileges?

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Ari®
03-30-09, 07:37 AM
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:08:44 -0700, John Smith wrote:

> ~BD~ wrote:
>> Unruh wrote:
>>
>>>> I have been led to believe that the BIOS on a motherboad can be
>>>> attacked/infected but I have no knowledge of how one may check and/or
>>>> 'clean' same.
>>>
>>> Buy a new computer. Anyway, the chances of anyone subv erting the bios
>>> and
>>> leaving the machine bootable is almost nill. Would it be possible?
>>> Yes.
>>> It is also possible that President Obama spends four hours each day
>>> personally going over the transcripts of all the conversations you
>>> have had that day Yes, it is possible.
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Newfangled rootkits survive hard disk wiping
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/24/persistent_bios_rootkits/
>
> It seems like these types of kits are more likely designed to monitor
> traffic going in and out of a computer or network
>
>>
>> HTH
>> --
>> Dave (~BD~)

Red lights mean stop.

Are we bonding yet?
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