How to setup wifi on a modemless connection?

[Dandad]

Hi - Can anyone tell me how to setup my D-link router so it will work in a
community, where the modem is placed in the basement and I just have an
outlet in the wall?
Kevin

[John Navas]

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:08:56 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
<4943de22$0$24410$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:

>Hi - Can anyone tell me how to setup my D-link router so it will work in a
>community, where the modem is placed in the basement and I just have an
>outlet in the wall?

What kind of "community"?
What kind of outlet? Ethernet from the basement? AC power?
What model D-Link? What firmware version?
What kind of Internet connection? Wireless? This is, after all, a
_wireless_ newsgroup.
It's very hard to give good advice without a lot more good information.
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[Dandad]

Thanks foir you rinterest. I live in a building where all the flats have
adsl from one source in the basement. That means I have no modem to connect
to - just a cable coming out of the wall with a 4 mb connection. D-link
model DI-524 AC power.


"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> skrev i en meddelelse
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> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:08:56 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
> <4943de22$0$24410$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:
>
>>Hi - Can anyone tell me how to setup my D-link router so it will work in a
>>community, where the modem is placed in the basement and I just have an
>>outlet in the wall?
>
> What kind of "community"?
> What kind of outlet? Ethernet from the basement? AC power?
> What model D-Link? What firmware version?
> What kind of Internet connection? Wireless? This is, after all, a
> _wireless_ newsgroup.
> It's very hard to give good advice without a lot more good information.
> --
> Best regards, FAQ for Wireless Internet: <http://wireless.navas.us>
> John Navas FAQ for Wi-Fi: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi>
> Wi-Fi How To: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_HowTo>
> Fixes to Wi-Fi Problems: <http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Wi-Fi_Fixes>

[John Navas]

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:27:40 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
<4943f0b8$0$24423$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:

>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:08:56 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
>> <4943de22$0$24410$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:
>>
>>>Hi - Can anyone tell me how to setup my D-link router so it will work in a
>>>community, where the modem is placed in the basement and I just have an
>>>outlet in the wall?

>Thanks foir you rinterest. I live in a building where all the flats have
>adsl from one source in the basement. That means I have no modem to connect
>to - just a cable coming out of the wall with a 4 mb connection. D-link
>model DI-524 AC power.

Unfortunately, your wireless probably won't reach from the basement to
flats overhead -- the Wi-Fi signal doesn't penetrate floors well. You
could try a replacement high-gain panel antenna pointed up and/or
high-gain antennas in the flats pointed down, but I'm not optimistic.

Do these flats all share the same mains power? If so, you could use
powerline networking. Same for TV coax and coax networking.

p.s. In the future, please don't switch posting styles (top vs bottom)
in mid-thread -- it makes the thread confusing and hard to follow.
Thanks.
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[Mark McIntyre]

Dandad wrote:
> Thanks foir you rinterest. I live in a building where all the flats have
> adsl from one source in the basement. That means I have no modem to connect
> to - just a cable coming out of the wall with a 4 mb connection.

Presumably this is an ethernet socket? In which case, buy a cable-ready
wireless router of some sort, and configure its WAN side identically to
your existing router.

> D-link model DI-524 AC power.

Seems fine, what happens if you plug its WAN port into the wall socket,
and your PC into one of its LAN ports? Read the instruction manual for
the router, or run through the config as per D-link's website. You may
need to clone the MAC address of your existing router (or your PC if you
have no router).

http://support.dlink.com/emulators/di524/h_wan.html


Still no idea what you mean about "community" tho - might be worth
clarifying.

[Char Jackson]

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:27:40 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> skrev i en meddelelse
>news:0qn7k4pba2tghhke9usrf7cf2e0mqgg61o@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:08:56 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
>> <4943de22$0$24410$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:
>>
>>>Hi - Can anyone tell me how to setup my D-link router so it will work in a
>>>community, where the modem is placed in the basement and I just have an
>>>outlet in the wall?
>>
>> What kind of "community"?
>> What kind of outlet? Ethernet from the basement? AC power?
>> What model D-Link? What firmware version?
>> What kind of Internet connection? Wireless? This is, after all, a
>> _wireless_ newsgroup.
>> It's very hard to give good advice without a lot more good information.
>>
>Thanks foir you rinterest. I live in a building where all the flats have
>adsl from one source in the basement. That means I have no modem to connect
>to - just a cable coming out of the wall with a 4 mb connection. D-link
>model DI-524 AC power.

If I understand correctly, there's a single ADSL modem (and quite
likely it's a modem/router combo) in the basement, so the cable coming
into your flat is a standard Ethernet connection. If so, reset the
router to factory defaults (known working state), verify that the
Internet connection type is Automatic-DHCP, and you should be able to
connect, wired and/or wireless.

Instead, if there are multiple ADSL modems in the basement, one for
each flat, then set the Internet connection type in the router to PPOE
and enter your username and password.

Either way, that should be about it - the Internet connection should
work at that point, but it won't be secure or unique. Change the SSID,
enable wireless security (WEP is broken, use a flavor of WPA if all of
your equipment supports it), and change the router's password.

[John Navas]

On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 09:44:41 -0800, John Navas
<spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote in
<1ls7k4drur2hs5nu5tsooiuikgvgejka12@4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 18:27:40 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
><4943f0b8$0$24423$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:
>
>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 17:08:56 +0100, "Dandad" <igor@mail.ru> wrote in
>>> <4943de22$0$24410$456a7185@news.cirque.dk>:
>>>
>>>>Hi - Can anyone tell me how to setup my D-link router so it will work in a
>>>>community, where the modem is placed in the basement and I just have an
>>>>outlet in the wall?
>
>>Thanks foir you rinterest. I live in a building where all the flats have
>>adsl from one source in the basement. That means I have no modem to connect
>>to - just a cable coming out of the wall with a 4 mb connection. D-link
>>model DI-524 AC power.
>
>Unfortunately, your wireless probably won't reach from the basement to
>flats overhead -- the Wi-Fi signal doesn't penetrate floors well. You
>could try a replacement high-gain panel antenna pointed up and/or
>high-gain antennas in the flats pointed down, but I'm not optimistic.
>
>Do these flats all share the same mains power? If so, you could use
>powerline networking. Same for TV coax and coax networking.

Is the cable coming out of the wall in the basement (as I first assumed)
or in your flat? (This is the kind of confusion that results when you
don't provide complete details.) If the latter (in your flat), then
you're all set -- just cable the DI-524 to what's presumably an Ethernet
outlet in your flat, set it up (unique SSID, WPA security, etc) and go.
If an Ethernet cable won't fit in the wall socket, then tell us what
kind of socket it is.
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