Re: Obama / McCain both hire incompetent IT staff, computers hacked

[Chilly8]

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I can believe it. Some IT firms are not exactly the brightest around.

I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.

I noticed in the logs where there was one connection to my web site from
the network to my web site from this Seattle based consulting firm,
followed by a connection, only a few seconds later from a Comcast
cable modem, which went to one of my radio station feeds.

This PROVES that NO security system is one hundred percent foolproof.
When someone as a IT CONSULTING FIRM that is supposed to KNOW about
security can bypass the firewall and listen to my station, it shows
that any firewall system, even the so-called "secure" firewalls
touted by Leythos, are not infallable. If an IT consulting firm
that specialises in firewalls cannot plug all the holes in their
filtering system, it shows that no filtering system is 100 percent
infallable.

All the boss at that firm will know is that someone is making a
connection to their Comcast cable modem, but will not know they
are tuning into an online radio station. The logs I have indicate,
within the past week, there has been a total of 3 hours and 28
minutes of listening time coming from that one consulting firm
in Seattle. On Friday, USA time, there was a total of 3 hours
and 28 minutes of connect time from this consulting group's
computer network to my online radio station.

The all-Christmas music programing we are running now (when
not doing any live programming) is proving to be quite
popular, and we have seen at-work listening go through
the roof, since we commenced it on Halloween day.

[Leythos]

In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.
>

And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
residential connection that has no business reason.

Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
anyway.

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[Chilly8]

Leythos wrote:
> In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
>> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
>> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
>> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.
>>
>
> And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
> residential connection that has no business reason.
>
> Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
> is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
> anyway.
>


Well, this was from an IT consulting firm that specalises in firewalls.
The fact that someone was able to get past the firewall proves that even
a so-called "secure" network is infallable.

One would think that a IT consulting firm specialising in network
security would be able to secure their own office network. Then again,
like I said, even a "secure" network is not 100 percent infallable.

[Spender]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:51:15 +0100, Chilly8 <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote:

>This PROVES that NO security system is one hundred percent foolproof.
>When someone as a IT CONSULTING FIRM that is supposed to KNOW about
>security can bypass the firewall and listen to my station, it shows
>that any firewall system, even the so-called "secure" firewalls
>touted by Leythos, are not infallable. If an IT consulting firm
>that specialises in firewalls cannot plug all the holes in their
>filtering system, it shows that no filtering system is 100 percent
>infallable.

And it doesn't even occur to you to guess that the network administrator at
this "IT CONSULTING FIRM" may be the one who is listening to internet
radio?

You've proven that the person who sets up and maintains a firewall can
bypass the firewall. I didn't know that that has ever been disputed... but
you proved it anyway.

Next big question: Can a network administrator walk into the wiring closet
and unplug all the routers, thereby disabling the network?

I don't know... sounds tricky.

[Leythos]

In article <gf8pkf$9rm$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> Leythos wrote:
> > In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
> >> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that someone
> >> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
> >> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my station.
> >>
> >
> > And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
> > residential connection that has no business reason.
> >
> > Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
> > is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
> > anyway.
>
> Well, this was from an IT consulting firm that specalises in firewalls.
> The fact that someone was able to get past the firewall proves that even
> a so-called "secure" network is infallable.

No, it doesn't. Many places allow certain ports open, some don't apply
the same rules for secure networks as others.

A company that specializes in Firewalls is not any more secure than a
company that specializes in Paint or Flowers - it's about their rules
and desire to limit connections. They could allow streaming audio as a
general rule.

> One would think that a IT consulting firm specialising in network
> security would be able to secure their own office network. Then again,
> like I said, even a "secure" network is not 100 percent infallable.

Maybe they have not found a reason to secure their network against all
traffic that isn't business necessary. Since you don't know your
assumptions are, well, just your head up your ass again.

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"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gf8pkf$9rm$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> Leythos wrote:
>> > In article <gf8lla$mg0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> I have mentioned many times people circumventing firewalls to get to
>> >> my online radio station (or any other). Well, I have found that
>> >> someone
>> >> at one consulting firm in Seattle has managed to circumvent the office
>> >> firewall and use their Comcast cable modem account to get to my
>> >> station.
>> >>
>> >
>> > And in doing so, there is a glaring path out of the firewall to a
>> > residential connection that has no business reason.
>> >
>> > Most of the Security Professionals spot this activity in seconds and it
>> > is blocked, but it's blocked by default in a properly secured network
>> > anyway.
>>
>> Well, this was from an IT consulting firm that specalises in firewalls.
>> The fact that someone was able to get past the firewall proves that even
>> a so-called "secure" network is infallable.
>
> No, it doesn't. Many places allow certain ports open, some don't apply
> the same rules for secure networks as others.
>
> A company that specializes in Firewalls is not any more secure than a
> company that specializes in Paint or Flowers - it's about their rules
> and desire to limit connections. They could allow streaming audio as a
> general rule.
>
>> One would think that a IT consulting firm specialising in network
>> security would be able to secure their own office network. Then again,
>> like I said, even a "secure" network is not 100 percent infallable.


There is one insecure network in Saudi Arabia that people are
using to bypass workplace filtering, among other things. And
the owners of the colocation center in Jeddah don't care
about insecure machines on their network. The admins at
that centre will simply say "That is not illegal activity in
Saudi Arabia" and hang up on you. Simply put, if it
does not violate Saudi law, the will just tell you to take
a long walk off a a short pier. And they are right to do
so. Becuase the machines are in SAUDI ARABIA, they
are ONLY subject to SAUDI laws, and the owners of
that colocation centre are NOT SUBJECT to prosecution
OUTSIDE of Saudi Arabia. So if someone just happens
to use any machine there to bypass workplace filtering,
which the colocation centre owners apparently KNOW is
happening, they owners CANNOT BE PROSECUTED
in the Untied States becuase, as a Saudi-based company,
there are ONLY subject to SAUDI laws.

I found that there is a LOT of listening coming from
insecure proxies on that network. And someone on youjr
network right now could be using an insecure machine on
that network, and you would never know what they are
up to.

[Leythos]

In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> And someone on youjr
> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
> that network, and you would never know what they are
> up to.
>

Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.

On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.

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[Jimmy Ribbitt]

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"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> And someone on youjr
>> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
>> that network, and you would never know what they are
>> up to.
>>
>
> Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
> companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
>
> On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.


There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.

[DevilsPGD]

In message <ds-dnfuZi66jaYHUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@posted.sonicnet> "Jimmy
Ribbitt" <JimmyRibbitt@alphacrucisradio.net> was claimed to have wrote:

>There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
>banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
>with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
>to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
>up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
>be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.

The boss doesn't need to know what you're up to, all the boss needs to
know is what you're not up to: Work.

[Chilly8]

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> In message <ds-dnfuZi66jaYHUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@posted.sonicnet> "Jimmy
> Ribbitt" <JimmyRibbitt@alphacrucisradio.net> was claimed to have wrote:
>
>>There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
>>banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
>>with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
>>to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
>>up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
>>be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.
>
> The boss doesn't need to know what you're up to, all the boss needs to
> know is what you're not up to: Work.

However, as I have said, I see nothing wrong with Internet radio
as long as you are getting your work done. Unlike other proxies,
including the one mentioned by me up thread, the proxy that I run
is geared towards Internet radio and being able to listen from
work. As long as you are getting your work DONE, there is
NOTHING wrong with listening to Internet radio.

That is why our figure skating coverage gets a lot of listening
in Europe, if any part of an event shuold fall during hte workday
in Europe. While the popularity of skating has declined in
America, it is still popular as ever in Europe, and I see
connections from office networks all over Europe. Becuase
I am not in any filtering lists, I find that people often scan
my server to find the direct connect to avoid listening limits
set by Live 365. To this day, I cannot figure out HOW
they can find it. I use a port other than 8000. I thought
if I kept it OFF the usual Shoutcast ports, nobody
would be able to find it, but they do. To keep my
server from crashing to the excess load this causes,
I often change the port that is used, but they STILL
find the direct connect URL anyway. I always
thought that I kept the Shoutcast server (used
as a Live 365 relay) off the usual Shoutcast
ports, that no scanning tools would find it.

Once they find it, they simply plug that URL into
Windows Media Player when they get to work.
During the World Figure Skating Championships last
March, someone on a major corporate network in
Britain was tuned in all day to EVERY segment of
the competition, via my Shoutcast relay .

[Leythos]

In article <ds-dnfuZi66jaYHUnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d@posted.sonicnet>,
JimmyRibbitt@alphacrucisradio.net says...
> There is one proxy service out there now that using heavy
> banner ads, and they currently display on my site in rotation
> with various other ads. And they advertise that if you subscribe
> to their service, the boss will NEVER know what you are
> up to. It uses SSL encryption so that your traffic cannot
> be analysed, cracked, or sniffed.
>
And a SSL connection stands out in the Firewall Monitor like a glaring
red flare on a moonless night.

It would take seconds to spot, if it was even permitted, and fire the
offender.

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[Leythos]

In article <gfj27g$ug0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> However, as I have said, I see nothing wrong with Internet radio
> as long as you are getting your work done.
>

But, it's not YOUR CALL, they are almost always in violation of COMPANY
POLICY AND THAT'S ENOUGH TO FIRE THEM.

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[Chilly8]

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"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> And someone on youjr
>> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
>> that network, and you would never know what they are
>> up to.
>>
>
> Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
> companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
>
> On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.

Well, here is a quote about VPNs from on public VPN site

"VPN traffic itself is masked, it looks like a regular Internet traffic
and no unnecessary attention is attracted"

That is right off one Alive Proxy's pages.

[Leythos]

In article <gfrequ$sk0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
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> > In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> And someone on youjr
> >> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
> >> that network, and you would never know what they are
> >> up to.
> >>
> >
> > Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
> > companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
> >
> > On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.
>
> Well, here is a quote about VPNs from on public VPN site
>
> "VPN traffic itself is masked, it looks like a regular Internet traffic
> and no unnecessary attention is attracted"
>
> That is right off one Alive Proxy's pages.

LOL, and that would be factually a LIE/Incorrect.

So, if you're forming a VPN, you're going to stand out like a flare in a
dark night.

If you're using a SSL connection you're as easy to spot as the carpet in
your house.

If you're connecting to any site for any duration, well, you're easy to
spot also....

So, even if the service hops ports, connections to hundreds of sites,
it's easy to spot.

Face it, you're just an unethical idiot that falls for claims you have
no idea about.

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[Chilly8]

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"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gfj27g$ug0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> However, as I have said, I see nothing wrong with Internet radio
>> as long as you are getting your work done.
>>
>
> But, it's not YOUR CALL, they are almost always in violation of COMPANY
> POLICY AND THAT'S ENOUGH TO FIRE THEM.
>

Well, I am using one web promition tool to increase my web
traffic, and it has increased it. My logs are showing
numerous connections from one server farm in China,
notorious for open relays. It appears that a lot of people
'are surfing from work using these notoriously insecure
machines to desguise where they are going. All the boss
will know is that someone is connecting to a strange
computer in China.

Also, beucase this web promoservice uses "expired"
domains to re-direct traffic to my site, I avoid any
filtering lists I might be on. People on workplaces
will be able to access my site, and radio station,
until the filter vendors catch up with that, which can
take a few days. So for a mere 20 USD a month,
I am randomly placed, by this service, on expired
domains, to confuse filtering software out there
on the market, becuase whatever expired domain
I am assigned to will not show up in any vendor's
filtering lists for several days, at best. Admins,
filter vendors, and the like, are playing "whack
a mole" which people like me who use such
services. Block one domain, and it will appear
in another domain the next day. If this service
should become really popular, it WILL become
the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
And I would not be surprised if more webmasters
signed up for this service to evade filtering software.

[Leythos]

In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> If this service
> should become really popular, it WILL become
> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
>
>

By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
end of story.

Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
valid or not.

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[Chilly8]

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"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> If this service
>> should become really popular, it WILL become
>> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
>>
>>
>
> By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
> end of story.
>
> Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
> valid or not.

In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
workplaces.

[Chilly8]

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"Chilly8" <chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>> If this service
>>> should become really popular, it WILL become
>>> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
>>>
>>>
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>> By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
>> end of story.
>>
>> Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
>> valid or not.
>
> In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
> seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
> per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
> workplaces.
>

And that service is working, in the past few days, I have seen traffic
to my onilne radio station approach levels I have not seen in quite
a while. This service to evade filtering in most workplaces is well
worth the money I am paying for it.

They just simply point one or more of their expired domians at
my web server. Becuase those domians are not going to be in
any filtering vendors list right away, my site will be acessible in
most workplaces for several days. And I am seeing an
unbelievable increase in traffic. Once the search engines have
indexed my site on any domain name, I start getting more traffic.

[Leythos]

In article <gg1ups$3sd$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
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> > In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
> >> If this service
> >> should become really popular, it WILL become
> >> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
> > end of story.
> >
> > Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain name,
> > valid or not.
>
> In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
> seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
> per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
> workplaces.

You are NOT EVADING FILTERING, those places are just not choosing to
block you, so you're paying for nothing, which is really funny.

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[Chilly8]

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>> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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>> > In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> If this service
>> >> should become really popular, it WILL become
>> >> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
>> > end of story.
>> >
>> > Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain
>> > name,
>> > valid or not.
>>
>> In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
>> seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
>> per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
>> workplaces.
>
> You are NOT EVADING FILTERING, those places are just not choosing to
> block you, so you're paying for nothing, which is really funny.


I also block the known IP ranges of major filtering vendors to
prevent my site from being "spidered", and added to their
filtering lists. I had had to add a new IP block belonging
to Websense, as I was spidered for the first time by them
in a long time. I have added that IP range to my firewall,
so their automated spiders won't get back in the next time
they crawl my site again. It will appear as if my site
dissapeared, again, so I will be dropped from whatever filtering
lists I get on.

If I am not in the filtering vendors' block lists, I will not be blocked in
most workplaces, end of story.

[Chilly8]

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>>> > In article <gg0p0g$sb1$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>> >> If this service
>>> >> should become really popular, it WILL become
>>> >> the corporate IT admins WORST NIGHTMARE.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > By default, it would not work on a properly secured solution, period,
>>> > end of story.
>>> >
>>> > Your path is meaningless as connections are not filtered by domain
>>> > name,
>>> > valid or not.
>>>
>>> In most workplaces, it is filtered by domain name, which is why I am
>>> seeing my traffic go up since using this service. For a mere 20 USD
>>> per month, I get a service which lets me evade filtering in most
>>> workplaces.
>>
>> You are NOT EVADING FILTERING, those places are just not choosing to
>> block you, so you're paying for nothing, which is really funny.
>
>
> I also block the known IP ranges of major filtering vendors to
> prevent my site from being "spidered", and added to their
> filtering lists. I had had to add a new IP block belonging
> to Websense, as I was spidered for the first time by them
> in a long time. I have added that IP range to my firewall,
> so their automated spiders won't get back in the next time
> they crawl my site again. It will appear as if my site
> dissapeared, again, so I will be dropped from whatever filtering
> lists I get on.
>
> If I am not in the filtering vendors' block lists, I will not be blocked
> in
> most workplaces, end of story.


And it's WORKING. Since I added Websense's new IP range
to the list of blocking incoming addresses on my firewall, the
traffic to my online radio station has gone THROUGH THE
ROOF. I am seeing traffic like I have not seen in a LONG
time.

And my promo service, which also uses "expired" domains,
to evade filtering is also helping. I am seeing traffic to my
like I have not seen in a long time. Since 99.9 percent
of corporate networks use commercial filtering
solutions, the service I am using to muck up attempts
to filter me is WORKING. The service I signed on to
is giving me RESULTS.

Our broadcasts of Cup Of Russia are getting \
INCREDIBLE amounts of traffic from office networks
in Europe, if any part of the competition falls during the
workday in Europe. Skating is still highly popular in
Europe, and a lot of people are tuning in from
office networks in Europe during the working
hours in Europe. I am sure that I am becoming
the WORST NIGHTMARE of office network
admins in Europe.

[Chilly8]

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"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gfrequ$sk0$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>>
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>> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2385df974510f8559896d2@us.news.astraweb.com...
>> > In article <gfgkkh$o26$1@aioe.org>, chilly8@hotmail.com says...
>> >> And someone on youjr
>> >> network right now could be using an insecure machine on
>> >> that network, and you would never know what they are
>> >> up to.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Again, yes, there are improperly configured networks, there are
>> > companies that don't care, there are demons in movies too.
>> >
>> > On a properly secured network your crap can't be reached.
>>
>> Well, here is a quote about VPNs from on public VPN site
>>
>> "VPN traffic itself is masked, it looks like a regular Internet traffic
>> and no unnecessary attention is attracted"
>>
>> That is right off one Alive Proxy's pages.
>
> LOL, and that would be factually a LIE/Incorrect.
>
> So, if you're forming a VPN, you're going to stand out like a flare in a
> dark night.
>
> If you're using a SSL connection you're as easy to spot as the carpet in
> your house.
>
> If you're connecting to any site for any duration, well, you're easy to
> spot also....
>
> So, even if the service hops ports, connections to hundreds of sites,
> it's easy to spot.
>
> Face it, you're just an unethical idiot that falls for claims you have
> no idea about.
>


Here is something someone on your network could be going
right NOW, and you would NOT detect it. Since I put the
statcounter code in the right place on the Station Page
on Live 365, I have been able to find very interesting ways
people are getting past corporate firewalls.

And here is one way that even the so-called "secure" firewalls
that Leythos touts, would NEVER detect. I spotted a connection
from a TV station in the USA, coming through the office MAIL
SERVER. Some mail servers do apparently have a security
flaw that will let someone sneak past the office firewall, in
a way where admins wiill NEVER detect what is going
on. Someone has apparently found some kind of way
of using the office mail server to get around the filter.

So whoever is sneaking out through the mail server at
this one television station will NEVER be detected
by the local network administrator.

This is something even Leythos, and his "secure" firewall
would NEVER be able to detect.