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wade@82ndstreetwireless.com
09-19-08, 08:28 AM
Another resource is www.freewifihotspotsoftware.com. Any questions,
feel free as I'm a developer with the project.

Jeff Liebermann
09-19-08, 11:09 AM
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 06:28:27 -0700 (PDT), wade@82ndstreetwireless.com
wrote:

>Another resource is www.freewifihotspotsoftware.com. Any questions,
>feel free as I'm a developer with the project.

Ummm... from your web page:
"Capture the email addresses of your wi-fi enabled
customers and send them promotional email to bring
them back (on-demand). Click here for our free
report - Mobile Marketing 101."
Kinda sounds like the site and the project are an email address
harvester suitable for a spammer. Also, I think the dot.com meltdown
and implosion of free municipal wireless have adequately demonstrated
that "free business plans" are an oxymoron.

Thanks, but I don't think I'll register.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Paul
09-21-08, 10:16 AM
<wade@82ndstreetwireless.com> wrote in message
news:09c5f84b-42b6-4c78-b162-ea06260ff2df@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Another resource is www.freewifihotspotsoftware.com. Any questions,
> feel free as I'm a developer with the project.

I thought this an interesting claim:

"(10) How many simultaneous connections can the WRT54GL router handle at any
given time?
The WRT54GL has been tested to handle over 100 simultaneous connections
without any problem. "



Really? I've got enterprise grade Proxim stuff that maxes out at 63 users
per radio ...



-- Paul

Jeff Liebermann
09-21-08, 10:42 AM
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:16:40 -0400, "Paul"
<paule@nospam-mindspring.com> wrote:

><wade@82ndstreetwireless.com> wrote in message
>news:09c5f84b-42b6-4c78-b162-ea06260ff2df@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Another resource is www.freewifihotspotsoftware.com. Any questions,
>> feel free as I'm a developer with the project.
>
>I thought this an interesting claim:
>
>"(10) How many simultaneous connections can the WRT54GL router handle at any
>given time?
>The WRT54GL has been tested to handle over 100 simultaneous connections
>without any problem. "
>Really? I've got enterprise grade Proxim stuff that maxes out at 63 users
>per radio ...
>-- Paul

You're confusing "connections" with "users". I've done over 100
connections with a WRT54G router running DD-WRT which defaults to
either 512 connections.
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_max
If none of these connections are moving any traffic, then I probably
could have tried even more than 100. However, when one or more starts
moving traffic, the maximum number of usable connections drops
rapidly. I guess we can call these "users".

I use the following table for the max number of connections:
100 users doing light web browsing and email.
10 business users doing whatever business users do.
1 file sharing user.

Ummm... I thought the AP-1000 and AP-2000 lines maxed out at 2048
connections? I"m too lazy to dig out the data sheet and check. All
but the cheeziest junk routers sold today will do 256 max. What
happens when you hit 64? MAC address table overflow?

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

DTC
09-21-08, 05:12 PM
Paul wrote:
> "(10) How many simultaneous connections can the WRT54GL router handle at any
> given time?
> The WRT54GL has been tested to handle over 100 simultaneous connections
> without any problem. "

Most likely they mean "connected or authenticated users" in an idle or
not downloading state.

Paul
09-21-08, 10:24 PM
"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:tupcd45le4eum55dj15g6v0n49df6soaco@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 11:16:40 -0400, "Paul"
> <paule@nospam-mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>><wade@82ndstreetwireless.com> wrote in message
>>news:09c5f84b-42b6-4c78-b162-ea06260ff2df@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>> Another resource is www.freewifihotspotsoftware.com. Any questions,
>>> feel free as I'm a developer with the project.
>>
>>I thought this an interesting claim:
>>
>>"(10) How many simultaneous connections can the WRT54GL router handle at
>>any
>>given time?
>>The WRT54GL has been tested to handle over 100 simultaneous connections
>>without any problem. "
>>Really? I've got enterprise grade Proxim stuff that maxes out at 63 users
>>per radio ...
>>-- Paul
>
> You're confusing "connections" with "users". I've done over 100
> connections with a WRT54G router running DD-WRT which defaults to
> either 512 connections.
> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_max
> If none of these connections are moving any traffic, then I probably
> could have tried even more than 100. However, when one or more starts
> moving traffic, the maximum number of usable connections drops
> rapidly. I guess we can call these "users".
>
> I use the following table for the max number of connections:
> 100 users doing light web browsing and email.
> 10 business users doing whatever business users do.
> 1 file sharing user.
>
> Ummm... I thought the AP-1000 and AP-2000 lines maxed out at 2048
> connections? I"m too lazy to dig out the data sheet and check. All
> but the cheeziest junk routers sold today will do 256 max. What
> happens when you hit 64? MAC address table overflow?
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


With the Proxim AP-4000 it's 63 "users" aka client radios associated with
the AP's radio (forgive me if I am not using the proper terminology) I
don't think the Proxims have any problem with hundreds of TCP connections
(i.e., each machine connected to it averaging 8-10 TCP connections each)

I understand loosely defined "connections" can mean TCP connections which
can number in the hundreds, but if 100 TCP connections is what the OP was
referring to in his WRT54G firmware, that's highly misleading. When he says
"100 connections" in his advertising the assumption would be 100 unique
laptop radios connected to a single WRT54G. I just don't see that
happening.

-- Paul