Linksys WRT300N - Sept 2008

[BrianKBC]

Hi
I've had more than enough trouble from my 2 Linksys WRT300N Wireless
Routers. The following link to the linksys forum site
http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Routers&thread.id=109919
provides the details.

Has anyone solved the problems with the router or have you got your
money back?

Brian

[Rich Klestinez]

Looks like they deleted your message. I guess if all the big box stores get
back these units and they don't re-order, then, that's a kind of recall.
Wishfull thinking!
Return it to where you bought it as soon as you can.

Rich
in Texas

"BrianKBC" <briankbc@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6839c20e-b4a6-4de0-bf4a-39fe03393a70@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Hi
> I've had more than enough trouble from my 2 Linksys WRT300N Wireless
> Routers. The following link to the linksys forum site
> http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Routers&thread.id=109919
> provides the details.
>
> Has anyone solved the problems with the router or have you got your
> money back?
>
> Brian
>

[steve]

I bought one about 8 months ago. I found that I got no better distance
with an N card in a laptop than non N. routers. Im not that impressed.
I have had others who have had problems accessing it. I think ?? i
checked the bios which is 1.1 and there is no upgrades as of yet. It
would be nice to improve it since, well I own it and dont want to buy
another.

steve

[Peter Pan]

steve wrote:
> I bought one about 8 months ago. I found that I got no better distance
> with an N card in a laptop than non N. routers. Im not that impressed.
> I have had others who have had problems accessing it. I think ?? i
> checked the bios which is 1.1 and there is no upgrades as of yet. It
> would be nice to improve it since, well I own it and dont want to buy
> another.
>
> steve

did the box say up 4x 6x 8x 12x etc times the range? the words "up to" are
weasel words, usually there is absolutely no difference in range, but people
buy it cuz they see up to nnX times the range (where the nn keeeps getting
bigger, no change, just got to put a bigger number on the box so people buy
it).. wonder why they don't just print up to one zillion times the range and
be done with it.....

on to the bright side tho, forgetting all the other stuff, it does handle
power glitches better (handy in thunderstorm season) :)

[DTC]

Peter Pan wrote:
> did the box say up 4x 6x 8x 12x etc times the range? the words "up to" are
> weasel words, usually there is absolutely no difference in range, but people
> buy it cuz they see up to nnX times the range (where the nn keeeps getting
> bigger, no change, just got to put a bigger number on the box so people buy
> it).. wonder why they don't just print up to one zillion times the range and
> be done with it.....

Type N is all about speed, in practice there is no significant
improvement in range.

[steve]

On Sep 5, 6:41*am, DTC <DTC_no_s...@example.com> wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
> > did the box say up 4x 6x 8x 12x etc times the range? the words "up to" are
> > weasel words, usually there is absolutely no difference in range, but people
> > buy it cuz they see up to nnX times the range (where the nn keeeps getting
> > bigger, no change, just got to put a bigger number on the box so peoplebuy
> > it).. wonder why they don't just print up to one zillion times the range and
> > be done with it.....
>
> Type N is all about speed, in practice there is no significant
> improvement in range.
I think your right about the that.

However Like a fool I read the promotional data on it and it says:


"Start a Wireless Network With Up To 4X the Range and 12X the Speed!"

"The Access Point built into the Router uses the very latest wireless
networking technology, Wireless-N (draft 802.11n). By overlaying the
signals of multiple radios, Wireless-N's "Multiple In, Multiple
Out" (MIMO) technology multiplies the effective data rate. Unlike
ordinary wireless networking technologies that are confused by signal
reflections, MIMO actually uses these reflections to increase the
range and reduce "dead spots" in the wireless coverage area. The
robust signal travels farther, maintaining wireless connections up to
4 times farther than standard Wireless-G. "

I suppose that this is only in a perfect environment. I was expexting
eg if the distance was 50 feet now it should be 100 feet with the N.
I get no better distance.

Regards

[Peter Pan]

DTC wrote:
> Peter Pan wrote:
>> did the box say up 4x 6x 8x 12x etc times the range? the words "up
>> to" are weasel words, usually there is absolutely no difference in
>> range, but people buy it cuz they see up to nnX times the range
>> (where the nn keeeps getting bigger, no change, just got to put a
>> bigger number on the box so people buy it).. wonder why they don't
>> just print up to one zillion times the range and be done with it.....
>
> Type N is all about speed, in practice there is no significant
> improvement in range.

has more range.. says so on the box....Reminds me of the Fiber one
commercial, has more fiber, it says so on the box (You mean I have to eat
the box? :)

[Peter Pan]

steve wrote:
> On Sep 5, 6:41 am, DTC <DTC_no_s...@example.com> wrote:
>> Peter Pan wrote:
>>> did the box say up 4x 6x 8x 12x etc times the range? the words "up
>>> to" are weasel words, usually there is absolutely no difference in
>>> range, but people buy it cuz they see up to nnX times the range
>>> (where the nn keeeps getting bigger, no change, just got to put a
>>> bigger number on the box so people buy it).. wonder why they don't
>>> just print up to one zillion times the range and be done with
>>> it.....
>>
>> Type N is all about speed, in practice there is no significant
>> improvement in range.
> I think your right about the that.
>
> However Like a fool I read the promotional data on it and it says:
>
>
> "Start a Wireless Network With Up To 4X the Range and 12X the Speed!"
>
> "The Access Point built into the Router uses the very latest wireless
> networking technology, Wireless-N (draft 802.11n). By overlaying the
> signals of multiple radios, Wireless-N's "Multiple In, Multiple
> Out" (MIMO) technology multiplies the effective data rate. Unlike
> ordinary wireless networking technologies that are confused by signal
> reflections, MIMO actually uses these reflections to increase the
> range and reduce "dead spots" in the wireless coverage area. The
> robust signal travels farther, maintaining wireless connections up to
> 4 times farther than standard Wireless-G. "
>
> I suppose that this is only in a perfect environment. I was expexting
> eg if the distance was 50 feet now it should be 100 feet with the N.
> I get no better distance.
>
> Regards

remember I talked about weasel words, note there is no comma in the sentence
on the box, so reverse the phrases before and after the and..... Makes it up
to 12X the speed *AND* 4X the range...

at any rate, there are no specs for n yet, and many manufacturers do things
different, so the cards you had (but didn't specify whos/what, or you did
and I forgot) may not have been working exactly as you would think with that
router....

Heres's a little history and an analogy that may help you some..(not exactly
technicaly exact, but hopefully understandable to most, at work I used to
translate tech/geek speak into english) I used to have a wrt54g wap/router
in the basement, brick walls outside, and some load bearing cement block
walls inside, that the signal didn't get thru very well... after a lightning
strike (power went out, clocks flashed 12, router was dead dead dead) I got
a wrt300n at the best buy down the street, replaced the dead unit (54g) but
saw no increase.... the brick and load bearing walls were still there, and
blocked the signal from the new thing as effectively as the old.... I was
told two things... 1) think mimo works sort of like a lighthouse, one bulb
but the mirror spins around and focuses the thing in a moving circle,
however, if there was a tree/mountain/building/wall/etc blocking the light
from the non spinning light you won't see a spinning light any better.....
and it can only go further if nothing is in the way.....

The other thing that seems to cause slowdowns on that unit, is n only, or n
and b/g compatibilty.... since I have tivos/pda's/tablets/etc on the
wireless network, that only work with b/g, I had to stay with compatibility
instead of n only, so I never saw any speed benefits of speed......