Upload speed

[Worn out Retread]

I have a laptop connected wirelessly to the Internet via a D-Link WBR 1310
router and a desktop computer hard wired to the same router. The laptop's
upload speed to the internet is about 5x faster than the desktop while the
desktop downloads about 2x faster than the laptop.

The desktop is connected via the built-in SiS 900-based PCI Fast Ethernet
Adapter.

The speed was checked using the same version of Network Magic network
software addressing the same server. Changing servers, changed the numbers
but the relative speeds between the computers remained the same.

Both computers are running XP SP2.

Could the driver for the desktop's built in Ethernet be at fault? If it is,
what would be the correct method to update the driver? I have downloaded a
driver from SiS that seems to match my driver information and motherboard
type but have not tried to install yet.

Is this situation normal or am I wrong in thinking that the desktop computer
that is hard wired to the router should have faster communication than the
wireless laptop?

Thank you.

[Mark McIntyre]

Worn out Retread wrote:
> I have a laptop connected wirelessly to the Internet via a D-Link WBR
> 1310 router and a desktop computer hard wired to the same router. The
> laptop's upload speed to the internet is about 5x faster than the
> desktop while the desktop downloads about 2x faster than the laptop.

Tell us the numbers - your BB speed is X, your laptop uploaded at y and
downloaded at z etc.

> The desktop is connected via the built-in SiS 900-based PCI Fast
> Ethernet Adapter.

Out of a properly configured 10/100 network adapter like that one, you
should get roughly the full speed of your internet connection in either
direction - provided the destination server can dish it out at that
speed and nothing else is using your connection at the same time.

> Could the driver for the desktop's built in Ethernet be at fault?

Fairly unlikely. More likely its misconfigured or your laptop was trying
to use the internet at the same time, or some other process was running
- or maybe your internet provider was just having a blonde moment.


> Is this situation normal or am I wrong in thinking that the desktop
> computer that is hard wired to the router should have faster
> communication than the wireless laptop?

If you're measuring speed to the internet, they would probably be much
the same unless you have 50Mb broadband or better.

[Worn out Retread]

"Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> Worn out Retread wrote:
>> I have a laptop connected wirelessly to the Internet via a D-Link WBR
>> 1310 router and a desktop computer hard wired to the same router. The
>> laptop's upload speed to the internet is about 5x faster than the desktop
>> while the desktop downloads about 2x faster than the laptop.
>
> Tell us the numbers - your BB speed is X, your laptop uploaded at y and
> downloaded at z etc.

My download speed from the desk-top machine was 4012 and from the laptop at
2120 kbps. The upload speed from the desk-top was 140 kbps and 740 kpbs from
the lap-top. Thes numbers were obtained using the same network software on
both machines and connecting to the same servers. Only one machine was
connected to the network at a time. When changing servers, the numbers may
change but the ratios between each machine reminains pretty constant.

>> The desktop is connected via the built-in SiS 900-based PCI Fast Ethernet
>> Adapter.
>
> Out of a properly configured 10/100 network adapter like that one, you
> should get roughly the full speed of your internet connection in either
> direction - provided the destination server can dish it out at that speed
> and nothing else is using your connection at the same time.
>
>> Could the driver for the desktop's built in Ethernet be at fault?
>
> Fairly unlikely. More likely its misconfigured or your laptop was trying
> to use the internet at the same time, or some other process was running -
> or maybe your internet provider was just having a blonde moment.
>
>
>> Is this situation normal or am I wrong in thinking that the desktop
>> computer that is hard wired to the router should have faster
>> communication than the wireless laptop?
>
> If you're measuring speed to the internet, they would probably be much the
> same unless you have 50Mb broadband or better.


The account is a 10 mbps connection. The ISP says that they do not impose
speed restrictions in either direction.

[Mark McIntyre]

Worn out Retread wrote:
>
> "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:OB0yj.1037$c47.710@en-nntp-06.am2.easynews.com...
>> Worn out Retread wrote:
>>> I have a laptop connected wirelessly to the Internet via a D-Link WBR
>>> 1310 router and a desktop computer hard wired to the same router. The
>>> laptop's upload speed to the internet is about 5x faster than the
>>> desktop while the desktop downloads about 2x faster than the laptop.
>>
>> Tell us the numbers - your BB speed is X, your laptop uploaded at y
>> and downloaded at z etc.
>
> My download speed from the desk-top machine was 4012 and from the laptop
> at 2120 kbps. The upload speed from the desk-top was 140 kbps and 740
> kpbs from the lap-top. Thes numbers were obtained using the same network
> software on both machines and connecting to the same servers.

what software? How did it measure / generate these numbers?

> Only one
> machine was connected to the network at a time. When changing servers,
> the numbers may change but the ratios between each machine reminains
> pretty constant.



> The account is a 10 mbps connection. The ISP says that they do not
> impose speed restrictions in either direction.

Are you sure? Its very very unlikely you have a symmetric 10 Mbps
connection. Most domestic connections have much lower upload rates eg
10Mbps down / 500Kbps up.

--
Mark McIntyre

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[Worn out Retread]

"Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> Worn out Retread wrote:
>>
>> "Mark McIntyre" <markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> news:OB0yj.1037$c47.710@en-nntp-06.am2.easynews.com...
>>> Worn out Retread wrote:
>>
>> My download speed from the desk-top machine was 4012 and from the laptop
>> at 2120 kbps. The upload speed from the desk-top was 140 kbps and 740
>> kpbs from the lap-top. Thes numbers were obtained using the same network
>> software on both machines and connecting to the same servers.
>
> what software? How did it measure / generate these numbers?

I used Pure Networks Network Magic. They have a list of servers from which
to choose. Other speed rating sites have given very similar results.
>
>> Only one machine was connected to the network at a time. When changing
>> servers, the numbers may change but the ratios between each machine
>> reminains pretty constant.
>
>
>
>> The account is a 10 mbps connection. The ISP says that they do not impose
>> speed restrictions in either direction.
>
> Are you sure? Its very very unlikely you have a symmetric 10 Mbps
> connection. Most domestic connections have much lower upload rates eg
> 10Mbps down / 500Kbps up.

Yes, I checked with them twice to be sure. They told me that whatever my
hardware could send or receive up to 10 Mbps they would handle it. I do
know that the modems have restrictions on what they are capable of but I
would like to know why the wireless is faster than the hard wired unit.

[Jeff Liebermann]

"Worn out Retread" <newdoverman@yahoo.ca> hath wroth:

>>> My download speed from the desk-top machine was 4012 and from the laptop
>>> at 2120 kbps. The upload speed from the desk-top was 140 kbps and 740
>>> kpbs from the lap-top. Thes numbers were obtained using the same network
>>> software on both machines and connecting to the same servers.
>>
>> what software? How did it measure / generate these numbers?
>
>I used Pure Networks Network Magic. They have a list of servers from which
>to choose. Other speed rating sites have given very similar results.

My guess is that you are in Germany. Try one of these sites:
<http://www.zockbar.de/show/speedtest.html>
<http://www.ces.vwl.uni-muenchen.de/cesvideo/bandwidth/test.html>
<http://www.speedtest.de>
<http://www.speedmeter.nl/speedmeter.de/testsuite/testcontroller.asp?>
<http://www.numion.com/yourspeed/checkup.php3?l=de>

It is unlikely that your unspecified cable ISP will give you
10Mbits/sec of exclusive bandwidth for the duration of the test. As
speeds increase, such ISP's tend to use QoS to limit the bandwidth
allowed to individual users and individual services. Some ISP's offer
"burst" bandwidth, which offers substantial increases in bandwidth,
but only for the first few minutes/seconds.

>>> Only one machine was connected to the network at a time. When changing
>>> servers, the numbers may change but the ratios between each machine
>>> reminains pretty constant.

How do the numbers change? Are repetative tests yielding
substantially different numbers?

>> Are you sure? Its very very unlikely you have a symmetric 10 Mbps
>> connection. Most domestic connections have much lower upload rates eg
>> 10Mbps down / 500Kbps up.

>Yes, I checked with them twice to be sure. They told me that whatever my
>hardware could send or receive up to 10 Mbps they would handle it.

That's not a good answer. All broadband ISP's limit both up and down
bandwidth. Cable is a shared medium, where other users on the system
will dramatically reduce your available bandwidth. All this says is
that the ISP is not willing to disclose what service level he's
delivering and what results you should expect to obtain. That's not
suprising as there is no way the ISP can guarantee the full
10Mbits/sec bandwidth. They certainly won't guarantee 10Mbits/sec
upload speeds as this would inspire everyone to setup servers. In
addition, the ISP's backbone bandwidth is probably symmetrical. The
home and business users get the bulk of the download bandwidth. The
server farm and co-located customers use the bulk of the outgoing
bandwidth (for servers). It all balances nicely, but would not work
if they supplied you the full 10Mbit/sec upload.

>I do
>know that the modems have restrictions on what they are capable of but I
>would like to know why the wireless is faster than the hard wired unit.

I have no idea. You didn't answer *HOW* you are testing. It could be
something as simple as the difference in performance between the
laptop and the desktop. If the faster laptop has an ethernet port,
try the test comparing its wireless and wired performance.


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[Worn out Retread]

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
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> "Worn out Retread" <newdoverman@yahoo.ca> hath wroth:
>
>>>> My download speed from the desk-top machine was 4012 and from the
>>>> laptop
>>>> at 2120 kbps. The upload speed from the desk-top was 140 kbps and 740
>>>> kpbs from the lap-top. Thes numbers were obtained using the same
>>>> network
>>>> software on both machines and connecting to the same servers.
>>>
>>> what software? How did it measure / generate these numbers?
>>
>>I used Pure Networks Network Magic. They have a list of servers from which
>>to choose. Other speed rating sites have given very similar results.
>
> My guess is that you are in Germany. Try one of these sites:

No, I am not in Germany. I am in Canada.

> It is unlikely that your unspecified cable ISP will give you
> 10Mbits/sec of exclusive bandwidth for the duration of the test. As
> speeds increase, such ISP's tend to use QoS to limit the bandwidth
> allowed to individual users and individual services. Some ISP's offer
> "burst" bandwidth, which offers substantial increases in bandwidth,
> but only for the first few minutes/seconds.
>
>>>> Only one machine was connected to the network at a time. When changing
>>>> servers, the numbers may change but the ratios between each machine
>>>> reminains pretty constant.
>
> How do the numbers change? Are repetative tests yielding
> substantially different numbers?

No. The numbers are quite constant.

>>> Are you sure? Its very very unlikely you have a symmetric 10 Mbps
>>> connection. Most domestic connections have much lower upload rates eg
>>> 10Mbps down / 500Kbps up.
>
>>Yes, I checked with them twice to be sure. They told me that whatever my
>>hardware could send or receive up to 10 Mbps they would handle it.
>
> That's not a good answer. All broadband ISP's limit both up and down
> bandwidth. Cable is a shared medium, where other users on the system

This is not a "cable" connection. It is broadband over the telephone lines.

>>I do
>>know that the modems have restrictions on what they are capable of but I
>>would like to know why the wireless is faster than the hard wired unit.
>
> I have no idea. You didn't answer *HOW* you are testing. It could be
> something as simple as the difference in performance between the
> laptop and the desktop. If the faster laptop has an ethernet port,
> try the test comparing its wireless and wired performance.

I am using the testing facility of the networking software. I have also used
speed testing urls such as what you provided. The numbers remain pretty
constant.

It is probably a performance difference between the laptop and the desktop
which is an older machine.