Unsatisfactory speeds and ping

[xekushnr]

My download rates are not near what they should be. My ping is also a long way from how it used to be on the same connection. I cannot figure out what is wrong.

I am on a wireless connection and using XP Pro SP1. AFAIK I am paying for 7 down and 512 up, but I will have to double check tomorrow. I tried a few different settings on the TCP optimizer, but they all either made it slower or kept it at the same speed. I believe I have them back to the default settings now.

TCP analyzer
« SpeedGuide.net TCP Analyzer Results »
Tested on: 01.25.2008 20:15
IP address: 24.169.xxx.xxx

TCP options string: 020405b4
MSS: 1460
MTU: 1500
TCP Window: 17520 (multiple of MSS)
RWIN Scaling: 0
Unscaled RWIN : 17520
Reccomended RWINs: 64240, 128480, 256960, 513920
BDP limit (200ms): 701kbps (88KBytes/s)
BDP limit (500ms): 280kbps (35KBytes/s)
MTU Discovery: ON
TTL: 112
Timestamps: OFF
SACKs: OFF
IP ToS: 00000000 (0)


SG test
« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
2197 kbps down (~2.2 Mbps, 268 KB/s)↓
459 kbps up (~0.46 Mbps, 56 KB/s)↑
5120 KB downloaded in 19.094 seconds
500 KB uploaded in 8.922 seconds
Tested on: 2008.01.25 20:07 EST
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=6PDL37C9IGYZ
Latency: 74ms
Provider: mi.res.rr.com
Location: Livonia, MI, US

Claimed 55% of the average for other mi.res.rr.com subscribers...

tracert
Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [69.147.114.210]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 192.168.0.1
2 9 ms 10 ms 15 ms 10.68.192.1
3 23 ms 9 ms 9 ms gig5-3.fmhlmi1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.17]

4 9 ms 12 ms 11 ms gig3-2.lvnami1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.133]

5 22 ms 23 ms 24 ms son1-0-2.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.
205]
6 39 ms 24 ms 24 ms gig0-3-0.ncntoh1-rtr0.neo.rr.com [24.95.81.214]

7 32 ms 29 ms 33 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.70]
8 36 ms 32 ms 32 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.167]
9 34 ms 30 ms 33 ms 66.109.9.167
10 35 ms 35 ms 38 ms ge-2-1-0-p161.msr1.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.27
]
11 34 ms 39 ms 34 ms gi1-22.bas-a2.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.112.27]
12 33 ms 37 ms 32 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

Trace complete.

[trogers]

Try these settings with TCP Optimizer:

General Settings tab:
Custom settings - check
Modify All Network Adapters - check
network adapter selection - your NIC
MTU - 1500
TTL - 64
TCP Receive Window - 128480
MTU Discovery - Yes
Black Hole Detect - No
Selective Acks - Yes
Max Duplicate ACKs - 2
TCP 1323 Options:
Windows Scaling - checked
Timestamps - uncheck

Advanced Settings tab:
Max Connections per Server - 10
Max Connections per 1.0 Server - 20
LocalPriority - 1
Host Priority - 1
DNSPriority - 1
NetbtPriority - 1
Lan Browsing speedup - optimized
QoS: NonBestEffortLimit - 0
ToS: DisableUserTOSSetting - 0
ToS: DefaultTOSValue - 80
MaxNegativeCacheTtl - 0
NetFailureCacheTime - 0
NegativeSOACache Time - 0
LAN Request Buffer Size - 32768
Then select "Apply Changes" and reboot to take effect

[xekushnr]

Thanks for the reply trogers. Unfortunately the speed has dropped with those settings. Also, it now shows a different provider in the speed test, which is kind of odd. :rotfl:

« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
1965 kbps down (~1.97 Mbps, 240 KB/s)↓
437 kbps up (~0.44 Mbps, 53 KB/s)↑
5120 KB downloaded in 21.344 seconds
500 KB uploaded in 9.375 seconds
Tested on: 2008.01.25 21:36 EST
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=2LHXRI3UTP2F
Latency: 76ms
Provider: cableone.net
Location: Livonia, MI, US


EDIT: Huh, without changing anything I did another test and got a much better result. It's still not where it needs to be though.
« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
3446 kbps down (~3.45 Mbps, 421 KB/s)↓
484 kbps up (~0.48 Mbps, 59 KB/s)↑
5120 KB downloaded in 12.172 seconds
1024 KB uploaded in 17.344 seconds
Tested on: 2008.01.25 21:43 EST
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=1J34SA1C4OY3
Latency: 78ms
Provider: mi.res.rr.com
Location: Livonia, MI, US

[trogers]

Use my settings, reboot comp and post a tracert.

[xekushnr]

Just to clarify, both of the tests in my last post were with your settings. I will get the new tracert in a little bit when I go back upstairs.

I ran the same speed test on my downstairs computer. This is on a hardline from the router, whereas the problem computer is on wireless. This was to the same server.

« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
6728 kbps down (~6.73 Mbps, 821 KB/s)↓
482 kbps up (~0.48 Mbps, 59 KB/s)↑
5120 KB downloaded in 6.234 seconds
2048 KB uploaded in 34.797 seconds
Tested on: 2008.01.26 04:42 EST
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=HU9ULGOFXS22
Latency: 74ms
Location: Livonia, MI, US

Thats what I want to see on the other computer. I probably cant get those speeds over the wireless, but I think it should still be faster than it is. I'll get that tracert for you in a sec.

[xekushnr]

Here's the new tracert, back on the bad computer with the bad connection. These are per your settings.

I did two, not really for any reason.

The first
Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [69.147.114.210]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 3 ms 4 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.68.192.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms gig5-3.fmhlmi1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.17]

4 9 ms 8 ms 10 ms gig3-2.lvnami1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.133]

5 24 ms 21 ms 23 ms son1-0-2.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.
205]
6 29 ms 24 ms 29 ms gig7-3-0.ncntoh1-rtr0.neo.rr.com [24.95.81.210]

7 31 ms 33 ms 36 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.70]
8 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.167]
9 33 ms 36 ms 33 ms 66.109.9.165
10 34 ms 78 ms 59 ms ge-2-1-0-p170.msr2.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.29
]
11 33 ms 31 ms 34 ms gi1-22.bas-a2.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.112.27]
12 35 ms 32 ms 35 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

Trace complete.

...and the second
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms 9 ms 10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 13 ms 14 ms 10 ms 10.68.192.1
3 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms gig5-3.fmhlmi1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.17]

4 9 ms 12 ms 13 ms gig3-2.lvnami1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.133]

5 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms son1-0-2.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.
205]
6 25 ms 22 ms 23 ms gig0-3-0.ncntoh1-rtr0.neo.rr.com [24.95.81.214]

7 32 ms 31 ms 32 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.70]
8 32 ms 30 ms 31 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.167]
9 36 ms 32 ms 31 ms 66.109.9.163
10 31 ms 33 ms 32 ms ge-2-1-0-p161.msr1.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.27
]
11 31 ms 33 ms 30 ms gi1-23.bas-a1.re3.yahoo.com [68.142.238.67]
12 32 ms 30 ms 33 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

Trace complete.

[trogers]

The first
Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [69.147.114.210]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 3 ms 4 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.68.192.1

...and the second
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms 9 ms 10 ms 192.168.0.1
2 13 ms 14 ms 10 ms 10.68.192.1


Ping times at the first 2 hops of a normal tracert wpould probably be

1 <1ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.68.192.1

Your ping times at the router in hop 1 are considered high. Are both the router and modem being affected by interference from some nearby electrical devices, or interfering with each other?

Try turning power off the router and connect the comp directly to the modem and test.

[xekushnr]

It could be, let me try relocating things and I'll post back with a new test and tracert. Thanks again for your help.

[xekushnr]

Progress! After moving things around a bit downstairs, I was able to get my upstairs connection over 4Mbps. Here's where I'm at now...

« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
4049 kbps down (~4.05 Mbps, 494 KB/s)↓
481 kbps up (~0.48 Mbps, 59 KB/s)↑
5120 KB downloaded in 10.359 seconds
1024 KB uploaded in 17.437 seconds
Tested on: 2008.01.27 03:07 EST
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=S7OJ9FWMIN6D
Latency: 76ms
Provider: mi.res.rr.com
Location: Livonia, MI, US

tracert #1

Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [69.147.114.210]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.0.1
2 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 10.68.192.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms gig5-3.fmhlmi1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.17]

4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms gig3-2.lvnami1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.133]

5 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms son1-0-2.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.
205]
6 24 ms 24 ms 26 ms gig0-3-0.ncntoh1-rtr0.neo.rr.com [24.95.81.214]

7 31 ms 32 ms 29 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.70]
8 43 ms 29 ms 31 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.167]
9 34 ms 30 ms 31 ms 66.109.9.167
10 31 ms 31 ms 33 ms ge-2-1-0-p161.msr1.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.27
]
11 32 ms 32 ms 33 ms gi1-22.bas-a2.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.112.27]
12 32 ms 33 ms 31 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

Trace complete.

tracert #2

Tracing route to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net [69.147.114.210]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms 10.68.192.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms gig5-3.fmhlmi1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.17]

4 14 ms 9 ms 9 ms gig3-2.lvnami1-rtr2.twmi.rr.com [24.169.224.133]

5 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms son1-0-2.mtgmoh1-rtr0.columbus.rr.com [24.95.81.
205]
6 25 ms 24 ms 22 ms gig0-3-0.ncntoh1-rtr0.neo.rr.com [24.95.81.214]

7 32 ms 30 ms 29 ms ae-3-0.cr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.70]
8 31 ms 30 ms 33 ms ae-0-0.pr0.dca20.tbone.rr.com [66.109.6.167]
9 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms 66.109.9.163
10 31 ms 31 ms 33 ms ge-3-1-0-p160.msr1.re1.yahoo.com [216.115.108.65
]
11 31 ms 33 ms 31 ms gi1-22.bas-a2.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.112.27]
12 32 ms 31 ms 31 ms f1.www.vip.re3.yahoo.com [69.147.114.210]

Trace complete.

The router and modem are still near some electronics, but my wireless access point is now isolated (my access point is not a router). I did pull the router and modem away from each other though. Previously, the modem, access point, and router were all next to each other. I'll remember not to do that again.

[trogers]

Use the settings I gave with TCP Optimizer and see if your speed gets to 6 mbps.

[xekushnr]

I've been using your settings since you posted them. After trying again, I wasn't able to get over 4Mbps. I noticed the connection speed slider in the TCP optimizer was still set to 3.5 so I moved it up to 7Mbps.

« SpeedGuide.net Speed Test Results »
3857 kbps down (~3.86 Mbps, 471 KB/s)↓
481 kbps up (~0.48 Mbps, 59 KB/s)↑
5120 KB downloaded in 10.875 seconds
1024 KB uploaded in 17.437 seconds
Tested on: 2008.01.27 08:07 EST
Tested from: globalgoldtalk.com
Test Link: http://www.speedguide.net/speedtest/results.php?test=C94K6MKIZP8H
Latency: 74ms
Provider: mi.res.rr.com
Location: Livonia, MI, US

[trogers]

Try the tips for wireless of this thread:

http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=203247

[xekushnr]

Sorry to dig up my old thread but...

I tried messing around with things again since I STILL havent been able to get the connection up here right. My buddy gave me a Winsock XP fix that I guess just resets the corresponding registry codes, but I didnt notice any difference. After that, I reset my settings with the TCP Optimizer to what you gave me here. After rebooting, I again didnt see a difference. Once I rebooted again, my AVG anti-virus started updating itself as soon as XP loaded. It was going fast, at damn near 500kb/s. After about 5 seconds, everything in the background and all the other stuff loaded, and then the download stopped. After a few seconds, it continued downloading again but struggled to get over 200kb/s.

So what could be running in the background that would limit my connection like this? I have used msconfig to stop most processes that I dont need at bootup, so I dont think its a program that I have installed that is doing this. Maybe its a setting somewhere in Windows? I dont know. Any help would again be appreciated.

[trogers]

Sorry to dig up my old thread but...

I tried messing around with things again since I STILL havent been able to get the connection up here right. My buddy gave me a Winsock XP fix that I guess just resets the corresponding registry codes, but I didnt notice any difference. After that, I reset my settings with the TCP Optimizer to what you gave me here. After rebooting, I again didnt see a difference. Once I rebooted again, my AVG anti-virus started updating itself as soon as XP loaded. It was going fast, at damn near 500kb/s. After about 5 seconds, everything in the background and all the other stuff loaded, and then the download stopped. After a few seconds, it continued downloading again but struggled to get over 200kb/s.

So what could be running in the background that would limit my connection like this? I have used msconfig to stop most processes that I dont need at bootup, so I dont think its a program that I have installed that is doing this. Maybe its a setting somewhere in Windows? I dont know. Any help would again be appreciated.

Boot Windows into 'Safe Mode with networking' (press F5 during booting and select mode) and test speed.

If there is a huge speed difference, post your Hijackthis log.