Dropped Connection with Netgear MR814 (Idle Timeout?)

[P.A.]

The internet connection on my windows xp machine connected wirelessly
to my netgear mr814 router drops off if the computer is left idle for
a short amount of time, perhaps 20-30 mins and fails to re-establish
itself. I must re-set the modem and router for it to re-establish
itself.

Incidentally, i've discovered if i just run ping tests all day long
say set the -n to 10 million or whatever, the connection stays on when
am away from the computer, i guess the ping tests are keeping the
router busy so it doesn't drop off, I'm not sure exactly what all of
this means, but it is a minor annoyance.

Read some posts about adjusting the 'idle timeout' from default 5 to 0
mins in the router settings, but tried this and it hasn't fixed it,
have contacted netgear but have not heard back from them yet on it.
Router is using up to date firmware.

The wired machine can run all day on the wired router and be left idle
for any length of time and still stay connected, it's only the one
connected wirelessly this happens to. If i sit and work at the
wireless machine constantly the connection seems ok for as long as I'm
working but if i stand up for a while and come back it has often lost
the connection, it is not due to signal strength of the router, that
is fine.

[John Navas]

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:47:52 -0800 (PST), "P.A." <pma1972@hotmail.com>
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>The internet connection on my windows xp machine connected wirelessly
>to my netgear mr814 router drops off if the computer is left idle for
>a short amount of time, perhaps 20-30 mins and fails to re-establish
>itself. I must re-set the modem and router for it to re-establish
>itself.

Check for and turn off power management in the wireless adapter.

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[Bill Kearney]

> The internet connection on my windows xp machine connected wirelessly

You don't mention what wireless card you're using. That's important.

It's likely the power management functions on the card are the problem. You
can disable them and probably solve it, but in the process you'd lose the
power management benefits. Some cards (their driver, really) can't do power
management properly. The options are there but they just never seem to work
right.

> to my netgear mr814 router drops off if the computer is left idle for
> a short amount of time, perhaps 20-30 mins and fails to re-establish
> itself. I must re-set the modem and router for it to re-establish
> itself.
>
> Incidentally, i've discovered if i just run ping tests all day long
> say set the -n

Try using ping -t some.ip.add.ress

And, well, yeah, if you're bumping pings across the link you're keeping it
active. This points more to the power management idea.

It would seem unlikely that the router is at fault here.

[P.A.]

On Jan 23, 8:17*am, "Bill Kearney" <wkearne...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > The internet connection on my windows xp machine connected wirelessly
>
> You don't mention what wireless card you're using. *That's important.
>
> It's likely the power management functions on the card are the problem. *You
> can disable them and probably solve it, but in the process you'd lose the
> power management benefits. *Some cards (their driver, really) can't do power
> management properly. *The options are there but they just never seem to work
> right.
>
> > to my netgear mr814 router drops off if the computer is left idle for
> > a short amount of time, perhaps 20-30 mins and fails to re-establish
> > itself. *I must re-set the modem and router for it to re-establish
> > itself.
>
> > Incidentally, i've discovered if i just run ping tests all day long
> > say set the -n
>
> Try using ping -t some.ip.add.ress
>
> And, well, yeah, if you're bumping pings across the link you're keeping it
> active. *This points more to the power management idea.
>
> It would seem unlikely that the router is at fault here.

Thanks for the replies, but i just checked in the device properties
for the wireless card, and there is no 'power management' option for
this particular card, i think this may be an option on the wireless-g
cards mine is a wireless-b however, there was something about
'transmission rate' i changed it from automatic to 11 Mbps, I don't
know if that will help, any other ideas??

[Bill Kearney]

YOU STILL DON'T SAY WHAT CARD YOU'RE USING.

If you're on a laptop and it doesn't present power management options then
you probably need to either get new drivers or a new card entirely. Some
cards just suck.

[P.A.]

On Jan 24, 4:40*pm, "Bill Kearney" <wkearne...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> YOU STILL DON'T SAY WHAT CARD YOU'RE USING.
>
> If you're on a laptop and it doesn't present power management options then
> you probably need to either get new drivers or a new card entirely. *Some
> cards just suck.

It's a linksys wireless b on a custom desktop machine, yeah i'm
looking into the drivers now, i had kinda thought it was the router
because if it was the card why would i need to reset the router and
modem in order to get it to work, shouldn't i just be able to reset
the PC??

[Bill Kearney]

> > YOU STILL DON'T SAY WHAT CARD YOU'RE USING.

> It's a linksys wireless b on a custom desktop machine

"I give up"

[P.A.]

"i just checked in the device properties
for the wireless card, and there is no 'power management' option for
this particular card, i think this may be an option on the wireless-g
cards mine is a wireless-b however, there was something about
'transmission rate' i changed it from automatic to 11 Mbps,"

FWIW, the connection seems to be staying up since this setting was
changed, could be coincidence, but crossing fingers this was the fix i
was looking for