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minir
10-07-06, 05:13 AM
Hi to all

imho this is why Fan support is dying. No longer can the average working Dad afford to take Jr. to an NHL Game to see the greats. Its simply too expensive imho.

No Kids going as often, no future Fans of the Game down the road.
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What a fan pays at each NHL venue
By TEAM MARKETING REPORT
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Here are the average NHL ticket prices and Fan Cost Index (in U.S. dollars) for the 2006-07 season.

The Fan Cost Index comprises the price of four average tickets, two small draft beers, four small soft drinks, four regular-size hot dogs, parking for one car, two game programs and two least-expensive, adult-sized adjustable caps:

TEAM AVG. TICKET RANK FAN COST INDEX RANK
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Vancouver $58.96 1 $325.00 4

Montreal $56.82 2 $332.27 1

Boston $56.44 3 $327.77 2

New Jersey $54.67 5 $327.66 3

Philadelphia $55.66 4 $314.15 5

Minnesota $51.37 7 $293.98 6

NY Rangers $45.83 12 $284.83 7

Edmonton $51.76 6 $283.65 8

Calgary $47.35 9 $282.60 9

Los Angeles $45.98 10 $271.42 10

Florida $44.28 13 $271.12 11

Toronto $49.52 8 $271.07 12

Ottawa $45.95 11 $266.93 13

Atlanta $43.54 17 $266.64 14

Tampa Bay $44.27 14 $265.09 15

Detroit $43.13 18 $261.51 16

NY Islanders $44.01 16 $255.77 17

Columbus $44.08 15 $243.31 18

Nashville $40.78 19 $242.63 19

Colorado $38.48 20 $235.91 20

Dallas $36.36 24 $232.41 21

Washington $38.15 21 $230.61 22

Chicago $34.88 25 $225.52 23

San Jose $33.00 26 $219.00 24

Carolina $37.91 22 $217.62 25

Pittsburgh $36.61 23 $216.96 26

Anaheim $30.32 27 $210.77 27

St. Louis $28.23 29 $197.39 28

Buffalo $30.07 28 $187.29 29

Phoenix $25.41 30 $181.62 30

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OVERALL AVERAGE $43.13 $258.08

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minir

minir
10-07-06, 07:26 AM
Hi John

That's whats keeping many Arena full these days. Toronto even when you see empty seats is usually sold out, the majority of the Business Guys are sitting in the Pub watching from their.

Pretty expensive entertainment any more.

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regards

minir

WhoNut
10-07-06, 07:36 AM
It sucks...I make a good living and we really don't have the disposable income beyond taking the family to 3 or 4 pro sporting events/year. I do have friends that make it a financial priority over vacations and probably college funds. Forget about the NFL; that's $500 for a comparable experience.

Thank goodness my job gets me free tickets! :thumb:

CableDude
10-07-06, 08:06 AM
Jr. Hockey > NHL

Lefty
10-07-06, 08:06 AM
Larry way back when I was young and growing up in NYC I always dreamed of going to a game and sitting baseline and watching a game. I'm not into basketball any more, but was curious so I looked it up. $313-$1150 per seat ringside way too much IMNSHO.:wth:

minir
10-07-06, 08:16 AM
Hi WhoNut & John

WhoNut
Its a shame really. Most of my life i was positioned well, either in Business and the recipient of Freebies or working with the Manufacturers and giving them out (always a few left over;))

My Barber here in this little Town has many NHLers come by as they cottage nearby and he gets Freebies, but as he says it still costs him $300 bucks to cover transportation, parking, meal for he and his lady, a couple of drinks and Goodbye 3 large.

I honestly think its affecting those future fans and these Sporting events will pay a high cost down the road.

I have friends that live modestly and devote their entire lives and income to Sports. You can usually tell them as they have the latest Team Jackets and Hats etc and are drinking Draught Beer with other Guys dressed likewise.:D

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John
Makes sense John. A lot of people take their kids to the Jr. Games in Town and follow the local Teams due to cost.

In many cases its better entertainment, as you say.

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Thanks Fellas:)

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minir

minir
10-07-06, 08:22 AM
Hi CableDude & Lefty

CableDude
Exactly CableDude. Nice evening and doesn't destroy your mortgage payment so the kids still have a roof over their little heads.

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Lefty
Wow! That's way too much for the average Guy Lefty.

It used to be an Athlete would make about 3 to 4 times the yearly salary of a working man. Now they make a lifetimes worth a year. Is it any wonder the things spiralled out of control. Too bad greed has taken over.

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minir

Izzo
10-07-06, 08:41 AM
Yeah, professional sports are only for the 'elite' and super rich ....and half of those asshats have no clue what they're watching

YARDofSTUF
10-07-06, 08:57 AM
Ya, I always wonder how people can buy tickets for the seats way out in the back. I'd rather watch it on TV.

Anything closer is too much money.

Izzo
10-07-06, 09:06 AM
Ya, I always wonder how people can buy tickets for the seats way out in the back. I'd rather watch it on TV.

Anything closer is too much money.



Ya, upper deck...pff why even bother. I got my own private bathroom, food is abundant and ridiculously cheaper....beer?!...I can get 6 for the price of one and I don't have some asshat sitting .00000051451 inches from me if I just watch from home

blacklab
10-07-06, 09:55 AM
I am surprised Toronto is so far down the list.
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blacklab

minir
10-07-06, 10:20 AM
Hi Izzo, YARDofSTUF & blacklab

Izzo
There's no doubt many are knowledgeable Fans that have made it in business or whatever, but as you say many couldn't tell you a much about the Game but it makes good coffee chat with their friends the following day.

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YARDofSTUF
They are trying desperately to go to Pay Per View on that as well YoS.

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blacklab
They have great Sell Outs for one thing blacklab and also TV revenues that most do not have as well.

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minir

YARDofSTUF
10-07-06, 10:27 AM
YARDofSTUF
They are trying desperately to go to Pay Per View on that as well YoS.


They wont though, not with ratings the way they are, for events and stuff PPV takes a good chunk of change.

minir
10-07-06, 03:31 PM
Hi YARDofSTUF

We have the Leafs Network here which broadcasts the pre season games and a couple of others you can't get on regular channels. I forget what it costs me. $60 bucks a year maybe???

They have Talk Shows etc and carry the Marlies etc.

They'd love to be able to do it all but the public will resist it big time. Bettman is such an idiot he's working hard on it though.

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minir

RoscoPColtrane
10-07-06, 05:35 PM
eat before you go! that saves half the money right there. I don't like sitting to close to the ice either. I actually prefer mid way up so i can see the whole rink at one time. :thumb:

minir
10-07-06, 09:19 PM
Hi RoscoPColtrane

Yes that's true but part of the tradition is a Hotdog & a Coke while watching, especially with the kids. Also a lot of people travel a fair distance to go to these Games and it just isn't practical to do that.

In many cases people around here for example travel 100 miles each way and so they make a day of it. Do some shopping in Toronto and have lunch, plus dinner expenses. No too ways around it, its costly.

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regards

minir