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YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 03:43 PM
Ok looking at their site, what is the difference between Ubuntu on CD and Kubuntu on DVD?
Ok looking at their site, what is the difference between Ubuntu on CD and Kubuntu on DVD?
Ubuntu is gnome desktop and Kubuntu is KDE desktop
Ubuntu is gnome desktop and Kubuntu is KDE desktop
as default I assume ?... I know Mandriva installs KDE as default but includes Gnome and a few others.
Kubuntu just has KDE on it and Ubuntu just has Gnome. Ubuntu can be had on one single cd while Kubuntu is 2 or 3 cds.
Oh, if you're going to install just to play then try the Dapper Drake flight 5 install. It's beta but seems to work well for me so far.
YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 05:07 PM
Ubuntu is gnome desktop and Kubuntu is KDE desktop
K Dled the Ubuntu iso, you were right servers are fast.
K Dled the Ubuntu iso, you were right servers are fast.
You gonna install it?
YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 05:23 PM
You gonna install it?
Nah, I just wanna fill up my hard drive :p
Ya, made a partition, gonna install x64 version, see how well it likes my hardware.
Nah, I just wanna fill up my hard drive :p
Ya, made a partition, gonna install x64 version, see how well it likes my hardware.
Wasn't sure with the comment "because its free".
YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 05:45 PM
Wasn't sure with the comment "because its free".
Oh ya, planned to use it, I liked suse, gonna give this a shot. Come back here often, I should have issues :D
YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 05:56 PM
Tada! First problem:
Partition Disks
I have raid installed and it finds it ok, but it watns to erase my partitions or resize them, or edit manually. I want it to use whats there already.
EDIT: No it only sees my 250 gig data drive, no array.
Tada! First problem:
Partition Disks
I have raid installed and it finds it ok, but it watns to erase my partitions or resize them, or edit manually. I want it to use whats there already.
EDIT: No it only sees my 250 gig data drive, no array.
Give it some unpartitioned free space on the drive.
YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 07:25 PM
Give it some unpartitioned free space on the drive.
Doesnt see the drive. just the 250 gig.
YARDofSTUF
03-30-06, 07:36 PM
I get this from Areca on linux drivers:
ftp://60.248.88.208/RaidCards/AP_Drivers/Linux/DRIVER
Gonna take someone better then me to figure it out.
YARDofSTUF
03-31-06, 02:31 AM
Would the x86 version work on a 64bit AMD?
cyberskye
03-31-06, 08:57 AM
Doubt that mobo raid (which is really sw raid) will work under any linux distro - definitely not as bootable.
You could problably get it to work but you would have to either build it into the kernel or add it as a module then add something in the init.rd. Like I said, I'm kinda new at this but I would think it is possible seeing how the do have the drivers for it.
cyberskye
03-31-06, 10:11 AM
You could problably get it to work but you would have to either build it into the kernel or add it as a module then add something in the init.rd. Like I said, I'm kinda new at this but I would think it is possible seeing how the do have the drivers for it.
I am sure it's possible, but you need to keep the perspective that it is sw raid - meaning the main cpu does all calculations, not the raid hw. You'll need to create the partions as a raid-type and that will delete everything on them. I assume you are planning on dualbooting - something you do not want to try if both OSs are meant to boot from the array.
HW raid cards cost several hundred bucks and most of them run fine under any flavor of unix.
I am sure it's possible, but you need to keep the perspective that it is sw raid - meaning the main cpu does all calculations, not the raid hw. You'll need to create the partions as a raid-type and that will delete everything on them. I assume you are planning on dualbooting - something you do not want to try if both OSs are meant to boot from the array.
HW raid cards cost several hundred bucks and most of them run fine under any flavor of unix.
Good point.
YARDofSTUF
03-31-06, 11:31 AM
I am sure it's possible, but you need to keep the perspective that it is sw raid - meaning the main cpu does all calculations, not the raid hw. You'll need to create the partions as a raid-type and that will delete everything on them. I assume you are planning on dualbooting - something you do not want to try if both OSs are meant to boot from the array.
HW raid cards cost several hundred bucks and most of them run fine under any flavor of unix.
I'm not running software raid, I posted a link to my cards linux drivers, its a hardware raid.
The card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816131003
cyberskye
03-31-06, 12:25 PM
I'm not running software raid, I posted a link to my cards linux drivers, its a hardware raid.
The card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816131003
Gotcha - would recommend that you install / to a non-raid disk. Otherwise, you'll need to create a custom kernel with the driver patched in (by installing to the non-raid disk) then creating your partitions and moving filesystems around. Realy messy especially if/when you have to update the kernel.
I have HW raid on two of my nix boxes - I don't put / on either.
The card looks like its supported for quite some time(google searches).
http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
Might just need to pass some commands at boot to get it to see it.
YARDofSTUF
03-31-06, 02:16 PM
I have HW raid on two of my nix boxes - I don't put / on either.
Why is that?
If I cant get it on my array, i cant run it on this system. have a spare raptor i can throw in my P4 box though.
cyberskye
03-31-06, 02:23 PM
Why is that?
If I cant get it on my array, i cant run it on this system. have a spare raptor i can throw in my P4 box though.
A best practice - singleuser mode doesn't load userland drivers - if something goes wrong, you may not be able to boot to teh array - also an additional point of failure in the card itself. If it or the pci slot goes you won't be able to boot and it isn't as simple as pulling off one of the drives and connecting to onboard controller.
Then again, I come from the Solaris/BSD worlds - Linux is much kinder in terms of HW support, so honestly it may not apply
Personally, I like to keep each OS on it's own disk.
YARDofSTUF
03-31-06, 02:32 PM
Logical Volume Manager, I can play around in there, asks about deleting or resizing partitions, I dont see an option to select a drive though.
Guess I'll load up the other raptor.
YARDofSTUF
04-03-06, 11:40 AM
CDs came today :thumb:
YARDofSTUF
04-04-06, 08:54 PM
Currently installing on a different, x86 system.
YARDofSTUF
04-04-06, 09:25 PM
So what do I do to get a task manager like view, wanna see if its seeing my HT as 2 cpus.
YARDofSTUF
04-04-06, 09:31 PM
Ok found system monitor, only shows 1 cpu.
Also the linux F@H wont install, cant display location it says.
YARDofSTUF
04-07-06, 07:16 AM
Ok, the single cpu problem was that ubuntu doesnt install smp kernel by defualt, apt-get fixed that pretty easy once some people at [H] dumbed it down enough, got my HT running great.
CableDude
04-13-06, 06:39 PM
Tried the live CD for a short time today.
I don't post much, but I run pure Debian Unstable on this box, and ubuntu on the rest of the computers in my house. No windows here.
I will help out where I can. It is always nice to see someone trying out linux.
CableDude
04-16-06, 11:00 AM
Posting from Ubuntu installed on the HD
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3927/screenshot2rj.th.png (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2rj.png)
It's really slow. Maybe the HD is going bad. :confused:
YARDofSTUF
04-16-06, 11:58 AM
It's really slow. Maybe the HD is going bad. :confused:
I was asking about linux performance on [H], they mentioned the biggest difference in performance would be from a kernel not really tweaked for the system, like the default one installed for best compatability.
I thought that after I updated to the 2.6 smp kernel it was faster because of the smp option being enabled, but It may manage stuff better or aptget knoes the hardware better after the install, dunno.
Posting from Ubuntu installed on the HD
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3927/screenshot2rj.th.png (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2rj.png)
It's really slow. Maybe the HD is going bad. :confused:
A 686 optimized kernel would probably help things out, and the accelerated video drivers for you video card would make it a LOT faster. Another thing would be to turn off IPV6 in Firefox.
All of those things would make your hard drive install about 50% faster. Ubuntu gives you the default install for compatibility, and it is up to you to optimize it.
Ghosthunter
05-25-06, 11:28 AM
Ubuntu is really nice..impressed with it so far..like it better then fedora but that is because always preferred debian
on my new machine at work getting ATI cards to recognize dual display what a real pain that was though, finally got it and works great
on my new machine at work getting ATI cards to recognize dual display what a real pain that was though, finally got it and works great
Well at least it's working. ATI isn't the best for nix, but it is getting better. It's about time for me to update my drivers on the lappy with the newer version.
Ghosthunter
05-25-06, 11:48 AM
Well at least it's working. ATI isn't the best for nix, but it is getting better. It's about time for me to update my drivers on the lappy with the newer version.
ati finally came out with a properteriary driver that worked for me
I am using 8.24.8
but these just came out havent tested it yet
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18.html#172579
YARDofSTUF
05-25-06, 07:22 PM
I'll say that I like Ubuntu a bit more now.
Shinobi
06-07-06, 03:46 PM
I'll say that I like Ubuntu a bit more now.
Hey YOS, you still using Ubuntu ?
Ubuntu is really nice..impressed with it so far..like it better then fedora but that is because always preferred debian
May I ask what are the major reasons for you preferring it over fedora? I have ran many distros except Ubuntu. But the last couple of years I have found myself staying with Fedora because I liked it over the others I tried. And now I really like FC 5. But I am always looking for something I may like even more. I hear the talk about how good ubuntu is and was just wanting more info before trying it over FC.
I have Woody on a lan server in my home office and Sarge on another server that is opened to the wan. Just 2 days ago I put Ubuntu on my laptop as a dual boot w/ windows.
I really like Ubuntu cause it's built on top of Debian and the default install does not contain a lot of bloatware like most distros use. Though I can do w/out the default multimedia apps and Gaim.
This install went smpooth as silk cause I booted from the live cd AFTER all hardware had already been detected and then ran the install on the largest free cont space on the disk. (I had previously backed up files on my second partition and deleted it, then created a new smaller second partion, moved back the files and also left 20 Gb free space for the ubuntu install.) Grub auto-detected the xp install & no issues dual booting. Plus, my HT P4 3.02 GHz is recognized.
Prior to this I ordered & received a 2wire wifi card w/ an orinoco chipset. I works perfectly in ubuntu & can even be put into promiscuous mode. :-)
No crashes yet...
Gotta love Debian for stability.
I really dig the new Gnome. I used to hate Gnome cause it was buggy & slow. But this new one is slick.
http://members.cox.net/aturrisi/ubuntu_desktop.png
Shinobi
06-07-06, 08:39 PM
I'm going to upgrade to Ubuntu 6.06 LTS tonight.. I also want to add on "xubuntu" http://www.xubuntu.org/ I always liked the Xfce window manager :nod:
Yeah, I like the Gnome desktop too.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/sidk8/desktop.png
I need help - I down loaded 6.06 to install on a P lll computer- I Burned to a ISO - How do you Install 6.06 - when I Boot to the Cd rom - it loads Dos and sits on the A: drive
How Can I install
Tia
Duz:) :)
YARDofSTUF
06-15-06, 03:49 PM
Duz it sits at the A: or just a dos like winow?
You should be able to hit F2 or F3 for options or type in "install"
Duz it sits at the A: or just a dos like winow?
You should be able to hit F2 or F3 for options or type in "install"
If you Re-start the Computer to Boot to The Cd Rom - With the Ubuntu CD in it will load a Dos Promt and sit on the A: Drive
I Tryed Install But No go
Duz
Sounds like you made the cd wrong. It should boot to a Ubuntu startup screen. You don't need to make the cd bootable, just burn it as an ISO.
Sounds like you made the cd wrong. It should boot to a Ubuntu startup screen. You don't need to make the cd bootable, just burn it as an ISO.
when you un-zip their is 11 folders and Icons- I am useing Nero 6 and to Burn a ISO It is Called "Burn Image to Disk"
The Pgm I am Useing Is PC(Intel X86) desk top
http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
Duz
Unzip? You don't unzip anything. Not sure what you are doing wrong, that is the same image I used and I burned it with nero as well.
Try telling nero just to use the iso that you downloaded without doing anything to the image.
Try using alcohol 120
http://www.free-downloads.net/programs/Alcohol_120_
YARDofSTUF
06-16-06, 12:04 AM
when you un-zip their is 11 folders and Icons- I am useing Nero 6 and to Burn a ISO It is Called "Burn Image to Disk"
The Pgm I am Useing Is PC(Intel X86) desk top
http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
Duz
Ya dont unzip, open the iso with nero, select finalize and burn it.
Shinobi
06-16-06, 01:20 AM
when you un-zip their is 11 folders and Icons- I am useing Nero 6 and to Burn a ISO It is Called "Burn Image to Disk"
The Pgm I am Useing Is PC(Intel X86) desk top
http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/
Duz
Duz,
If your using XP like I think you are using follow these steps to make Nero open and burn all .ISO files.
Right click on the .ISO file, left click on properties.
http://members.speedguide.net/shinobi/1.bmp
Then left click on the change button
http://members.speedguide.net/shinobi/2.bmp
Then left click on the "browse" button
http://members.speedguide.net/shinobi/3.bmp
You should be in the "Program Files folder, if you are double left click to open the "Ahead" folder as shown below.
http://members.speedguide.net/shinobi/4.bmp
Double left click on the Nero folder
http://members.speedguide.net/shinobi/5.bmp
Now left click once on the Nero.exe file just to highlight it, then left click on the "Open" button.
http://members.speedguide.net/shinobi/6.bmp
Then (Not Shown) press the Ok, button.. then press the Ok button again. Go to where you saved the Ubuntu .ISO file and double left click it to start burning it to a CD-ROM.
I hope the above was easy to understand..
Let us know..
Shinobi :)
When I down Load Ubuntu It Is a Zip File "Winrar" when I un zip I get The Files and Pgms that are in Ubuntu
Duz
YARDofSTUF
06-16-06, 08:54 AM
When I down Load Ubuntu It Is a Zip File "Winrar" when I un zip I get The Files and Pgms that are in Ubuntu
Duz
Its not a zip file, WinRar can read ISO files and after you install it it defaults to opening ISOs, so you get the ISO with the WinRar icon.
Its not a zip file, WinRar can read ISO files and after you install it it defaults to opening ISOs, so you get the ISO with the WinRar icon.
Ok - So How do I get Nero to Burn to Disk - so I can Load On The Pen lll
Duz
Use the alcohol 120% software, super simple to use.
YARDofSTUF
06-16-06, 10:56 AM
Ok - So How do I get Nero to Burn to Disk - so I can Load On The Pen lll
Duz
Right click the file you downloaded, choose "open with..." and select nero, then nero will open and it'll be at the burn page, click finalize and burn it.
Thanks for all the Help- I have it installed on the Computer and it works great
Nice OS
Thanks again
Duz:) :)
Can You Use AIM with Ubuntu 6.06 ????
Duz:) :)
Can You Use AIM with Ubuntu 6.06 ????
Duz:) :)
Just use GAIM. It will run AIM,yahoo,ICQ, etc. I think it installs by default on ubuntu.
BTW I D/L and ran the live CD version the other day. I may partition soon and dual boot FC5 and Ubuntu and see if it grows on me enough to move over to it completely.
Just use GAIM. It will run AIM,yahoo,ICQ, etc. I think it installs by default on ubuntu.
Thanks For the Help - I found it does support Gaim
Duz:) :)
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