I cant share 2 PCs with @home! need some help plz

[shagroon]

I have @home cable service, & I do have 2pcs that I want to get them connected 2 the net. I tried ICS but didnt work. As I have Win98 SE on the host PC. Any ways, I purchased a Linksys 5 port Hub. & I can now use both PCs to access, BUT not at the same time. I have 2 disconect one of them so the other can work.
When I try to run them both I get this weird message "The system has detected a conflict for IP 65.0.XXX.XXX with the system having hardware address 00.40.05.74.8B.F4"
Note: I used XXX to hide my IP address.

I don't know how to fix this problem, & I need ya help plz.
Any ideas?

I have a win98SE on both systems, & I do have 2 NIC cards on both PCs.

[gbiddle]

I thought the router takes your IP Address from your ISP and assigns two other IP Addresses for your other computers behind the router. I have two computers and the same router you do and I can access the net with both at the same time. I think you have missed something in the set up. Go back over your quick setup card and check everything again.

[Brent]

If you are going through a Hub you need to have a unique IP address from your ISP, each PC needs an IP from your ISP, so if you want to go that route you need to call up your isp and purhcase another IP for the other pc. You can't have the same IP on both pc's, IP's have to be unique.

The other option is ICS, for this you need 2 nic's in one pc and one nic in the other. You plug the cable or dsl's ethernet cable into one NIC and from the other nic you plug it either directly into the other computer via crossover cable or into the hub via regular straight through cable.

[Brent]

gbiddle, he's not using a router

[DrewWiley]

He has a hub and the hub is assigning him the same IP address for both computers. If you want to keep the hub, then purchase another IP from @home. Otherwise, buy a router.

[Brent]

3 options here:

1.) Purchase another IP from the ISP and use the hub

2.) Use a software based NAT/Proxy server such as ICS built into 98SE

3.) Buy a router with built in NAT

[shagroon]

Thank you so much
I have tried ICS b4 but it didn't work.
Now days I use the @home cable modem (RCA DCM215)
I'm not quite sure if a cable modem is diffrent than a router.
I called @home & they said "yes I need a new IP # for the new PC"
but I was wondering if I can bypass that, & get them 2 work without getting a new IP address. Which is going to cost about $5/month in addition to my bill.

If I need a router, which one? or what would ya recomend? If I return the @home cable & get a new router/modem this will save me $10/month, as I'm leasing the current modem.

Thank you all for your help.

I would really appreciate more advise from ya selves.

Thanks

Shagroon

[gbiddle]

I guess I should have read it twice.
I see he has a hub only sorry for the mis-information.

[DrewWiley]

Originally posted by shagroon:

If I need a router, which one? or what would ya recomend? If I return the @home cable & get a new router/modem this will save me $10/month, as I'm leasing the current modem
Shagroon
Many people use Linksys routers, but lately I have been hearing some tech issues with them.
You can't return the modem because you will connect it to the WAN port of the router so that both PC's may access the net.

[Leatherneck]

I have Roadrunner and I am using 2 PCs at the same time. The tech said I couldn't use my 2 PCs to access the internet at the same time, but then he winked at me as to say, there is always a way. Try the Wingate software from www.deerfield.com (http://www.deerfield.com) it is good software and is easy to setup. If you decide to buy it, it is only $29.

I too tried Win98 ICS. It was complicated. I found a great source for setting it up at www.annoyances.org/win98/ (http://www.annoyances.org/win98/) I might try it when my evaluation of Wingate is done.

[Brent]

Use ICS it stands for Internet Connection Sharing and it DOES work, ya just gotta play with it

I can get it workin in a couple of minutes, it's VERY VERY easy

just read through the directions very carefully, make sure you have the nic's setup right and stuff and all the cables plugged in where they should go

for your situation ICS sounds like it will work the best, and cheapest...

[HalfLifer]

With ICS can both be connected at same time, both send and receive at same time?

[Brent]

yes, that's the idea

[DrewWiley]

Originally posted by Brent:
Use ICS it stands for Internet Connection Sharing and it DOES work, ya just gotta play with it

I can get it workin in a couple of minutes, it's VERY VERY easy

just read through the directions very carefully, make sure you have the nic's setup right and stuff and all the cables plugged in where they should go

for your situation ICS sounds like it will work the best, and cheapest...
I'm scared, but I think i have to disagree with Brent. ICS is easy to set-up but when I used it I found it to be a hassle. First of all you always have to have the computer hooked up to the cable connection on if you want to access the internet from the other computer. Also I had trouble with my 192.xxx.x.x IP address to no end. I think that the router is just so much easier and will be a better choice in the long run. With my experience with ICS and many others, there is just bound to be many problems.

[Brent]

That's the nature of such things as ICS (NAT) software, you have to have one computer, the server, on anytime you want to access the net on the clietns, that's the way it works.

ICS is good for those that are only sharing one or two pc's on a cable connection and you don't want to have to spend any more money. Routers cost from $100 and UP, ICS is free.

Each has their benifits, each has their downsides, it's whatever works best for YOU.

I've setup ALL methods, ICS, WinGate, using more IP's from the ISP, Routers....

And variations of those...

I've gotten a good sence of what does what and what works best for what

[ 02-11-2001: Message edited by: Brent ]

[glc1]

Originally posted by DrewWiley:

I'm scared, but I think i have to disagree with Brent. ICS is easy to set-up but when I used it I found it to be a hassle. First of all you always have to have the computer hooked up to the cable connection on if you want to access the internet from the other computer. Also I had trouble with my 192.xxx.x.x IP address to no end. I think that the router is just so much easier and will be a better choice in the long run. With my experience with ICS and many others, there is just bound to be many problems.Hmm, I've never had a problem w/ ICS. I've used it w/ cable, ADSL and PPPoE ADSL. And, I've used all three OS implementations--98se, ME, 2k.

[ 02-11-2001: Message edited by: glc1 ]

[shagroon]

I have spent about a week trying to figure out how ICS works, & I tried it several times on my PCs without a luck.

I would agree ICS is kinda tricky.
I went to many many websites that give tutorial or help with ICS, managed to print out so many pages of help filez & guidelines, but I couldn't.

Thats why I moved to buying a hub, I thought "hey that might work" but i was wrong.

I think I will go back now I try ICS again & go over every single detail 100 times 2 make sure i'm doing it right.

I would like to thank ya all for ya great help, & ideas.

I will let ya know how my experiment will go.


Thanks

Shagroon

[Brent]

it takes me literally 1-2 minutes to get ics goin....

it's real easy

[shagroon]

I was wondering though,
can I use my USB port to connect 2 the other PC?
I mean I have an NIC card in the Host PC, & i used to connect to my cable b4 having my NIC, through the USB port. But Now I have an NIC. Can I make my (home) as my NIC, & the sharing port is the USB?
The other PC has it own NIC card.

thatss what I did the first time, do ya think this is where the problem was?

Thanks