incompleteness

[Jeremy]

i'm trying to fold on an older machine (pentium II 350), but it never completes the jobs on time and i get CUT (it finished about 1/3 of the 500 steps and then began another job). am i wasting time folding on that system, or does it upload partial data? if anybody's got a cheap replacement chip for it i can always plug it in as it runs 24/7 usually.

[Tawcan]

Are you overclocking on that machine? Which core are you running? If you're running Gromac with the advancemod trigger on try turning it off and run the Tinker core.

Could you copy and paste some of the log files so we could take a look? :)

[Jeremy]

http://members.shaw.ca/lfwing/speedguide/folding.txt

the fastest i've gotten it is 392MHz. i just downloaded the console and ran it. core_78???

[Tawcan]

[00:49:13] - Ask before connecting: No
[00:49:13] - Use IE connection settings: Yes
[00:49:13] - User name: Jeremy (Team 15)
[00:49:13] - User ID = 3A24989504912CC7
[00:49:13] - Machine ID: 1
[00:49:13]
[00:49:13] Loaded queue successfully.
[00:49:13] + Benchmarking ...
[00:49:19] Unit 2's deadline (September 12 20:28) has passed.
[00:49:54] + Attempting to get work packet
[00:49:54] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:06:53] - Successful: assigned to (171.64.122.124).
[02:06:53] + News From Folding@Home: Welcome to Folding@Home
[02:06:53] Loaded queue successfully.

The line Unit 2's deadline has passed caught my eyes. As you may not know each protein has its deadline. When the deadline is passed Standford will no longer accept this protein. I think they would still send out new ones but won't accept the old ones (not sure how this works).

I think that's the case with you.

It doesn't look like to me it's a system stability issue.

[rickoic]

PC may just be too slow for the Tinker units. Try and delete the client file in your folding directory.

Then when you run the FAH3Console program you will be asked again for all the information. Put it in just as before until you run into the question of FAH/GAH. Give the answer of G. Continue on till it downloads a work unit.

Make sure that you are NOT running with any flags. The G will download Gromacs units which have no deadline but will still be credited to our team.

Tks
Rick

[Cypher_138]

I've had to do that on a 250 of two at work. It'll crunch'em.

[Humboldt]

Originally posted by Tawcan
[00:49:13] As you may not know each protein has its deadline. When the deadline is passed Standford will no longer accept this protein. I think they would still send out new ones but won't accept the old ones (not sure how this works).



Not completely true actually.

They set the deadline because a lot of the research they do is in projects that come and go. Once they complete a given project the wu's once assigned to it are no longer relative and not worth much to them with regard to research.

However they DO still accept the completed wu no matter how far past the deadline it is and they do still assign some points for its completion, though not as many as the wu would've been worth had it been completed in time.

[Tawcan]

Originally posted by Humboldt
Not completely true actually.

They set the deadline because a lot of the research they do is in projects that come and go. Once they complete a given project the wu's once assigned to it are no longer relative and not worth much to them with regard to research.

However they DO still accept the completed wu no matter how far past the deadline it is and they do still assign some points for its completion, though not as many as the wu would've been worth had it been completed in time.


Ahhh I see. :)

[ScottE]

Originally posted by rickoic
PC may just be too slow for the Tinker units. Try and delete the client file in your folding directory.

Then when you run the FAH3Console program you will be asked again for all the information. Put it in just as before until you run into the question of FAH/GAH. Give the answer of G. Continue on till it downloads a work unit.

Make sure that you are NOT running with any flags. The G will download Gromacs units which have no deadline but will still be credited to our team.

Tks
Rick

G is for Genome@Home a completely different project with different stats. http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/genome/

[Tawcan]

I'm not too sure if the genome protein go into folding stats at all. Your best bet is probably keep folding using the gromacs core and try to keep the computer running for as long as possible.

You can probably try crunching the smaller wu proteins (ie 18 point ones). I'm not sure how you can capture those with F@h though.... with Genome classic you used to be able to back up protein and just crunch them over and over again.

Any problems please post them! :)

[rickoic]

A different forumla is used on the points system for Gromacs units, but they are posted to Folding teams.

Rick