mnosteele52 Help Me!!!!

[OD-}{unter]

When i host my online multiplayer games... it takes the players a long time for them to join... and sometimes they dont even make it.... and when the y do the lag like Sh*t sometimes they lag freeze...
i have DSL 1.5mps download 137k upload... how do i make it stop!!!
i have windows XP 2.66GHz 512MB of RAM...
HELP ME...
DR. TWEAK!!!!.... HELP!!:( :(

[OD-}{unter]

also when i click on find internet games... the server i wanna join says my ping should be at or around 79ms but when i join the server its at 135-200ms!! why!:( :( :(
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mnosteele52]

Please post a TCP/IP Analyzer test and tell me what type of DSL you have, normal or PPPoE.

:D

[OD-}{unter]

ok i will...:D i have PPPoE

[OD-}{unter]

ok here are the results
SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer


TCP properties for IP = xx.xxx.xxx.xxx ()
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; sbcydsl 3.12; yplus 3.01)
Notes: Read the Analyzer FAQ if the above is not your IP address.

TCP options string = 0204059201010402
MTU = 1466
MTU is not fully optimized for broadband. Consider increasing your MTU to 1500 for better throughput.
MSS = 1426
MSS is not fully optimized for broadband (although it might work well for slower connections). Consider increasing your MTU value.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 32120
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 32120

For optimum performance, consider changing RWIN to a multiple of MSS.
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
501952 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
250976 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
125488 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
62744 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product:

Your RcvWindow limits you to: 1284.8 kbps (160.6 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 513.92 kbps (64.24 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 54 hops

TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000

[OD-}{unter]

what do i do next?
i have TCP opitimizer

[mnosteele52]

OK first you need to set your MTU properly, it should be 1480. Use the following fix from Bob Carrick:

1) Download this file http://www.carricksolutions.com/XP_MTU.reg
2) Right click the file and choose "Merge"
3) Click "Yes"
4) Go to "Start" -> Click on "Run" -> Type in "Regedt32.exe" -> Click "OK"
5) Go to this Reg Key "[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\ Services\NdisWan\ Parameters\Protocols\0]"
6) Double click on "Protocol MTU"
7) Click on "Decimal" -> Enter your desired value (I.E.: Anything less then 1480.) Use hexidecimal value 5c8 (which is 1480).
8) Click "OK"
9) Done!

Once you do this reboot and then download CableNut from my signature, also if you are using a router make sure your firmware is up to date and it's MTU is set to 1480.

Once we confirm your MTU is set right we can optimize the rest of your settings.

Also what firewall are you using?

:) :cool:

[OD-}{unter]

ok i did everything u told me... i downloaded cable nut and installed it now wat do i do?...
also i dunno wat firewall i have i just turned it on.... it came with my computer i guess:D ;)
Anyways... What do i do now Buddy?

[mnosteele52]

OK please post another TCP/IP Analyzer test.

:cool:

[OD-}{unter]

SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer


TCP properties for IP = xx.xx.xxx.xxx ()
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; sbcydsl 3.12; yplus 3.01)
Notes: Read the Analyzer FAQ if the above is not your IP address.

TCP options string = 020405a001010402
MTU = 1480
MTU is optimized for Windows XP PPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for optimal throughput.
MSS = 1440
MSS is optimized for Windows XP PPPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for maximum throughput.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 17280
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 17280

RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
506880 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
253440 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
126720 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
63360 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product:

Your RcvWindow limits you to: 691.2 kbps (86.4 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 276.48 kbps (34.56 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
Consider increasing your RWIN value to optimize TCP/IP for broadband.
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 118 hops

TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 00000000

[OD-}{unter]

oh man u are helping me so much with this;) :D

[mnosteele52]

OK great, now let's get everything else tweaked properly. I would suggest finding your own optimum RWIN using the formula in my help & tips link, the values below should work very well for you but to fine tune them follow the formula I suggested.

DefaultReceiveWindow = 192000
DefaultSendWindow = 16384
DisableAddressSharing = 1
InitialLargeBufferCount = 200
InitialMediumBufferCount = 480
InitialSmallBufferCount = 640
LargeBufferSize = 819200
MaxFastTransmit = 64000
MediumBufferSize = 150400
PriorityBoost = 0
SmallBufferSize = 12800
TransmitWorker = 32
FastSendDatagramThreshold = 4096
EnableFastRouteLookup = 1
EnablePMTUDiscovery = 1
IgnorePushBitsOnReceive = 0
GlobalMaxTcpWindowSize = 37440
MaxFreeTcbs = 8000
MaxHashTableSize = 16384
MaxNormLookupMemory = 5000000
SackOpts = 1
SynAttackProtect = 1
Tcp1323Opts = 0
TcpLogLevel = 1
TcpMaxDupAcks = 3
TcpMaxHalfOpen = 100
TcpMaxHalfRetried = 80
TcpRecvSegmentSize = 1440
TcpSendSegmentSize = 1440
TcpTimedWaitDelay = 30
TcpUseRFC1122UrgentPointer = 0
TcpWindowSize = 37440
MaxConnectionsPer1_0Server = 20
MaxConnectionsPerServer = 10
DefaultTTL = 64
DisableUserTOSSetting = 0
TcpMaxDataRetransmissions = 6
DefaultTOSValue = 90

VERY IMPORTANT TO DO THE FOLLOWING

1. Under your LAN connection - properties - general tab, uninstall all the protocols there that you do not need.

2. Open IE and select tools - internet options - connections - LAN settings, make sure NOTHING there is checked.

3. Make sure you have the latest drivers for your NIC from the manufacturer. Set your NIC duplex mode to 10mb half duplex for Cable, for DSL it is ISP dependent unless you are using a router, if so then set it to 100mb full duplex for both Cable & DSL (the instructions are in my Help & Tips link (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73799)). If you are using a router make sure you have the latest firmware.

4. Clear your temporary internet files.

5. Power cycle your modem, unplug it for atleast 15 seconds.

6. Download and update then do a scan with SpyBot 1.2 (http://beam.to/spybotsd) & Ad Aware 6.0 (http://www.lavasoftusa.com/support/download) to remove any spyware then install and update SpywareBlaster (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/spywareblaster.html) to stay spyware FREE. YOU MUST USE BOTH AD AWARE & SPYBOT TO ENSURE YOU ARE SPYWARE FREE SINCE ONE FINDS WHAT THE OTHER MISSES.

7. Make sure you do the faster web page tweak in my Help & Tips link (http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73799).

Ok once you do all of that please post another analyzer test and speed test.


:cool: :D

[OD-}{unter]

OK HERE IT IS!!!
SpeedGuide.net TCP/IP Analyzer


TCP properties for IP = xx.xxx.xxx.xxx ()
Browser/OS = Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; sbcydsl 3.12; yplus 3.01)
Notes: Read the Analyzer FAQ if the above is not your IP address.

TCP options string = 020405a001010402
MTU = 1480
MTU is optimized for Windows XP PPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for optimal throughput.
MSS = 1440
MSS is optimized for Windows XP PPPoE DSL broadband. If not, consider raising MTU to 1500 for maximum throughput.

Default Receive Window (RWIN) = 37440
RWIN Scaling (RFC1323) = 0 bits
Unscaled Receive Window = 37440

RWIN is a multiple of MSS
Other values for RWIN that might work well with your current MTU/MSS:
506880 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 8)
253440 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 4)
126720 (MSS x 44 * scale factor of 2)
63360 (MSS x 44)
bandwidth * delay product:

Your RcvWindow limits you to: 1497.6 kbps (187.2 KBytes/s) @ 200ms
Your RcvWindow limits you to: 599.04 kbps (74.88 KBytes/s) @ 500ms
MTU Discovery (RFC1191) = ON
Time to live left = 54 hops

TTL value is ok.
Timestamps (RFC1323) = OFF
Selective Acknowledgements (RFC2018) = ON
IP type of service field (RFC1349) = 01011010

Precedence (priority) = 010 (immediate)
Delay = 1 (low delay)
Throughput = 1 (high throughput)
Reliability = 0 (normal reliability)
Cost = 1 (low cost)

[OD-}{unter]

there you go buddy... if my connection is fixed so that i can host online multiplayer games without the joiners lagging please tell me...
;) ;) ;) :D :D :) :cool: :cool:

[mnosteele52]

If you have done everything I posted then you should be good to go. Remember though, your latency is really controlled by your ISP but your connection should be much better now, try and see.

:D :cool:

[OD-}{unter]

OK THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN!!!!!
*HUG* I HOPE MY JOINERS WONT LAG THAT MUCH ANYMORE!!

[mnosteele52]

Are things running better?

:cool:

[OD-}{unter]

Nope im still having a lil bit of problems... although i surf the web faster